Vincent Kinian

@Video-Game-King

Vincent Kinian @Video-Game-King7/15/2023, 12:32 AM

Cliff 🦖 Pervocracy @pervocracy7/14/2023, 12:44 PM

thesis: the generational and connotative divide between emoticons and emojis is that emoticons are improvised and emojis are purpose-built

:) is like a little bit of humanity peeking out of the machine, saying "this system wasn't made to be used this way but I figured out how to send you a little smile"

😀 represents the machine re-asserting control by helpfully providing a set of emotions that is more flexible and readable, but is also limited to a fixed set, discouraging improvisation

🍆 represents the re-emerging resilience of the human spirit as we find new ways to break the machine's rules and repurpose its limited tools to express forbidden concepts

I have no idea where I'm going with this, I had another asthma attack and they gave me a lot of prednisone and it's hard to describe what that does to your brain but definitely something

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Great Joe @Great-Joe7/14/2023, 1:40 PM

I keep wondering why certain programs started translating :) to 😀 instead of 🙂. :) is clearly just a reserved smile, so you can pull out :D and such for a more pronounced smile. It's weirdly prescriptive.

Michaela Sue @beige-alert7/14/2023, 2:10 PM

Huh, that's interesting. But I gotta say, I read this and my first thought, having just told someone her transition timeline photos look like transition timelines always do (😐|😀), maybe the programmer is trans and came out recently and is just 😀 all the time now!

Cliff 🦖 Pervocracy @pervocracy7/14/2023, 6:24 PM

it's either that or the "finally could afford to get my teeth fixed" look

Michaela Sue @beige-alert7/14/2023, 11:19 PM

That could be, too

gwen @gwenverbsnouns7/14/2023, 2:21 PM

i was super annoyed by this when it first started happening

Matthew "Queso" Niederberger @Queso24697/14/2023, 2:52 PM

I have a autohotkey script to insert zero width spaces into my emoticons specifically to prevent facebook messenger from parsing them into emoji. (Although really it should probably be word joiner character so it doesn't line break them either, but I haven't tested if that parses into emoji yet or not and I barely use the platform anymore)

D W the Gutless @dwoboyle7/14/2023, 2:54 PM

I was thinking about how both are essentially modern punctuation that indicate tone. Though they're also not always punctuation and instead word replacement.

ralsei chuffin back a fat dart @avril7/14/2023, 3:03 PM

I dunno that I agree! emoji started as more or less a hack that some random Japanese cellphone manufacturers bolted onto Unicode — it's definitely standardized now, and it always relied on some companies choosing to implement them, but I feel like it's important that it started as a deliberate subversion of how a big computing standard says things should be.

Daniel Martin @fizbin7/14/2023, 4:51 PM

I thought that emoji first showed up in cell phones that were doing some weird variant of shift-JIS over SMS and these were some extra things they could shove in there.

However, I'll admit that I missing that bit of character encoding history; I was much too busy at the time trying to figure out how to get MULE working on my Debian 3.1 box and get it to properly display embedded Japanese by handling ISO-2022 sequences. (which, thankfully, are mostly gone and forgotten nowadays)

Holly Wednesday (Dr.)@doctorwednesday7/15/2023, 7:21 AM

That's an interesting take, and it does align somewhat with my experience. As someone who was on the internet before there were emoji, I pretty much disdain them as a manifestation of the corporate takeover of the internet... you know, marketing 'helping' with product design to give me a richer user experience. Barf-o-rama! So that's my version of the divide: the ancient, nerdy 'netiquette' version of the internet versus the current intrusive, outrage-driven hellscape.