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shel
@shel

While I appreciate that they're trying to taken our side I do find it very amusing when hapless liberals declare being a drag queen to be "not a choice" or to point at a drag queen doing a story time and say she was "born that way" like honey that isn't (necessarily) a trans woman and she wasn't born with a rainbow glittered wig


micolithe
@micolithe

I always found the "born this way" refrain kind of strange... Born queer or if you become queer later somehow? That shouldn't make a difference in how others view or respect you.


Webster
@Webster

i remember when i came out of the closet to my dad the FIRST thing he said was "upfront you should know that i think the idea that this isn't a choice is total bunk" and i said "fine, if it's a choice then it's the choice i've made. i'm not telling you this because i want your permission."

(credit where it's due years later he gave a very sincere apology)


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in reply to @micolithe's post:

'born this way' 'not a choice' was a liberal concession to Christians / Traditionalists to "win" gay marriage by activating some internal conflict in their rules like they're Asimov robots

since Kinsey we've known that people are not, in fact, universally 'born this way' and that sexuality is remarkably fluid, if not a 'choice' then it is certainly mutable

but because they're unhinged and obsessed with compromise and assimilation, they said "sure it's bad, but they can't help it so we have to just deal with it or else are you saying GOD WAS WRONG??!?!" and that's now the core of mainstream queer politics, allowing anyone who seemingly CHOOSES anything to do with their queerness to be endlessly villainized

like, maybe "being gay" isn't a choice, ok, but I can certainly move my body of my own volition. i am not 'incapable' of moving my body to go have sex with a dude. and in that case society can't tell if I "am gay" or if i am simply -choosing- to fuck men but "am not gay" so how can this metaphysical horseshit actually dictate how to treat people

I think the idea of born this way is also to state that no, we can't be "fixed," though I'm not entirely sure that makes things any different. It's still a case of having to say something slightly different just to not have to deal with someone who's got a warped view of things.

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