"please wishlist on steam!" will do
"please check out my itch!" absolutely
"sign up for my newsletter!" no problem
"join my discord!" not in a million years
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"we have a very active community.." alright awesome, great to know that- "..on our Discord" NO NO NO NO NOOO
"very active discord" makes it even worse, especially if you're expected to join a discord for support. Now if you need help you get to spend ages sifting through old messages to see if your question has already been answered.
Discord's search feature is somehow worse than nothing. Maybe if I buy nitro for only 100 dollars a year, I can be even more disappointed.
But if I don't join the discord how else will I keep up with the latest updates and downloads for this romhack?
rom hack projects insisting on building their communities on discord have the same energy as rich florida homeowners insisting on the view from their beachfront properties not being tarnished by catastrophic flood prevention measures
I miss RSS feeds
Sure wish Google hadn't intentionally almost killed it off years ago
I'm in 17 different discords. I want to be in about three of them.
even some discords I want to be in are too much effort.
"yeah y'all are my friends but you have 34 channels I just can't keep up with it"
I love to join a discord and then discover it has a bunch of really awful emoji that have name collisions with ones I actually want to use
I've almost hit my 100-Server Limit, and I only really frequent 10-15 of these servers. Frankly, I think it'd be better to make a Forum Site or just make a SubReddit instead of talking folks to join your Discord. And as you pointed out, I think telling people to check out your Itch[dot]io is just better.
Goddess, this is so damn true, holy hell. Don’t make me sift through old messages and have to interact with even more strangers just to find out more about your game. Even a newsletter is better than that.
I still do not understand how to participate in Discord. My friends and I had one that we used as a group chat during the first couple years of the pandemic and that was fine, but I don't want to be in dozens of group chats with thousands of strangers. That doesn't sound like fun.
The only redemption for discord is that I can drop at 300-word rant against shopping cart theory and the only people who see it already know I'm an insane person
but i want to read a publicly posted 300 word rant against shopping cart theory! i hate that the currently popular basis of morality and good citizenship is about how you handle a chain business' property
deep breath NORMAL PEOPLE DON'T MAKE MORAL JUDGMENTS ABOUT SHOPPING CARTS THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THEIR OVERPRICED VEGGIES AND GTFO. It's a design problem, we all skip inconvenient steps. We "not my problem" things all the time because not everything can be everyone's goddamn problem. It's nice that some people take that extra time to do nice things, but it's okay that others don't. Adherence to order is a bad measure of morality. It's a fun little Internet meme but it can lead to reductive reasoning.
I was very reticent to set up a discord for a game jam and I even put "please you don't have to use it; itch has forum support for jams and I have enabled it."
People insist that they just want to reply in real time and have a single login, but by god they post at rates as slow as the old forum days.
Every time a patchnote goes out over discord instead of THE BUILT IN THING IN STEAM i want to chase someone around with a bat
i have a few i know of, not even counting my own x3
always happy to share a few newsfeeds, gotta keep rss alive 🙏
Saw a demo for a game recently that tells you the tutorial is in the discord.
To be fair it was a very early build, but also... No.
Well heck.
I mean I have an email alternative I suppose but discord is the easiest thing for me to setup for group interaction, and I don't have the energy or know how to make a website of my own for forums and gallery display. I use patreon but mostly as a monthly gallery and thank you type support. Furaffinity and itaku for gallery. And co-host for more light and easier posting and I put my art here as well.
It's faster and easier for me to have a one stop live area to engage with folk and post my art at. And to have a place to talk to others when needed. Discord does serve that purpose.
If discord wasn't around I'm not sure what I'd do in that case. Going back 10 years I had Skype(or maybe it was msn messenger??) to talk to people I like. But for art and having a community of any kind all I would know how to do is post on deviant art and furaffinity and I guess reading comments on drawings would be the extent of any interaction? Maybe I'm just not as well learned in website communities? I'm not sure. I just have a hard time imagining how I'd get the same effect of what I have going on now without the tool that is discord that I have at the moment.
But when I see posts like this I wonder if I'm doing something wrong a little. Granted maybe the intent is more so that discord is not your thing and that there's nothing inherently bad and I'm reading too far into it. But with how often I've seen stuff ripping about using discord I start to wonder.
I'm not Aura, but as someone who's also talked about some of this stuff... I think the fact that you do have galleries and ways for people to keep up with your stuff outside Discord means you're not quite the group she meant.
Some of the stuff about this might just be cultural differences (I'm a little older, following a discord to get updates on stuff feels weird), but I do see a few issues with it being the default:
- There's a limit to the number of servers you can be in, and it's not that big. So if the only way to keep up to date with a game's development, or an artist, or something else is Discord, you have to choose at most 100 things to keep track of - and you might have to choose between being in a friend's server or being in a game's server, or something like that. The longer someone's been on Discord, the more of a problem it is because the more servers they're already in.
- A lot of discords are set up to welcome people when they join and are very socially active, which can be stressful or just unpleasant for people who only joined because it was the way they needed to get up to date information on something.
Oh okay, if this is the perspective that I'm missing then I should be okay.
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My discord is Not meant as a "Default" per say, but a quicker more "up to date" area where I tend to post my art first since it's my fastest access. I am indeed quicker to respond to discord, as that is the nature of a live chat service and I'm very much usually available for it. But I still post to sites I love outside of it consistently as well (Patreon second, Co-host third, everything else eventually)
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I also design my discord to be minimal and it does not demand activity, the activity is a "Bonus" but otherwise Ive moved the "WELCOME USER" call out to a hidden channel becuase I also feel awkward whenever I see that. Essentially, it's meant as a cozy place to chat that is kept minimal as possible and you can lurk if you want.
Side note, maybe it's a good thing but this feeling did cause me to look up HTML and start learning it today. I think it'd be neat to have a personal website of some sort even if I currently have no idea what that should look like or where it should go. (That and money means I need free or dirt cheap if possible.) Thinking of about community and having a forum on a website but I have a nagging feeling that adding forums takes alot more work than just having a gallery with navigation bars on a Webpage.
Anyway
Thank you for taking the time to respond and give reassurance, its easy for me to have nagging feelings but perspectives help alot.