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I know that subtle details tend to get lost in translation with lefty ideas but I've met multiple people who aren't assholes, but at some point in their lives have felt sad about being chronically single and then had an immediate negative conscience response of "that's incel shit, you're a bad person" because the only rubric left-wing spaces have given them for "a single person who's sad about it" is an incel

Like, obviously nobody is owed access to a certain person's body, harassment is not an appropriate response to emotional distress, etc. But someone like, say, an autistic person being infantilized and ostracized by their peers might come to the conclusion that their community does not believe they're romantically or sexually viable, and feel upset about that, for reasons entirely unrelated to entitlement

Idk, I've never personally seen a lefty take that's really acknowledged that romantic and sexual isolation can hurt and isn't inherently evil, outside of "cotton ceiling" talk that I'm not sure how to feel about, and that's going to lead to people crossing some wires

And I think when a movement is trying to be inclusive of people who are systemically excluded from society we have to have space for people to experience the base human instinct of emotional pain from exclusion


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in reply to @aliengeo's post:

Yeah I remember seeing a Shonalika video about how if you ignore the "celibacy" part it becomes a lot easier to see that there are "successful" men who have been able to get into relationships and therefore aren't perceived as equivalent even though they have more in common with incel thinking than anything else—they just see themselves as the "Chad" who's won the woman-prize. So I agree with this, I just wish more people would frame it that way instead of implying that the "can't get a date" aspect is intrinsic to the problem when plenty of people Don't become conspiracy theorists as a result of unmet emotional needs