Glittering fragments in chaotic, unstable orbit. A sharp friend with a fungal halo. ๐
I do what I am: ๐ช๐ธ๏ธ๐๏ธ๐ชก๐ช๐๐ญ๐๐ฉธ
been trying to put into words why i'm not as hype on this site yet, and this p much nails it
Yeah, stripping tags on shares is one of my earliest complaints about this site, and as far as I can tell, the only real reason it's done here is mindless imitation of how Tumblr works.
Okay I feel better that I'm not the only person who feels like tagging is useless, despite the fact that I've found literally everyone but people I already knew through them tagging their posts
It makes me feel like I'm somehow using the site correctly and incorrectly at the same time
What blew my mind is when i went on the official site update to vent about how as a content creator nor having recommendations or even my site stats showing how many people here click my links (to know if my articles are even gaining traction or not) someone told me the link tracking is deliberately disabled
So theyโre more concerned about disabling sites that barely would get hits from this place from tracking users than making unified tags or recommendations or suggested people so as a content creator my shit doesnt hit a brick wall
Very infuriating tbh and it gives me big vidme worries, which eventually imploded on itself and briefly had the far right hijack it before shutting down
Agreed in full. The idea of having a list of โpopularโ tags is also really good IMO - something, anything to indicate where the action is.
broadly agree. also: if every post in a share chain uses the same tag, that chain actually will show up in that tag. this is of course extremely unlikely since the tags are automatically stripped.
"photos"? "photo"? "photography"? "digital photos"? some of these may have been used once, ever, but you have no way of knowing unless you open a new tab
not really a solution, but afaik the tag suggestions that appear as you type are ordered by frequency. i don't think it's officially documented anywhere? but it's definitely A Thing
news to me, because that exact example also happens to include a duplicate entry of "photos" for no discernable reason
e: if you type "phot", you will get "photos" at the top, a second entry, then another "photos" entry as the third one, and it is not immediately clear to me why this is
interesting. hallucation on my end, i suppose. i may have been including the fully typed out tag in the list. oops
e: i will say that if it indeed sorted by usage, this is not at any level clear
hmm okay at second glance, there's definitely something weird going on. it seems to sort them by usage to some degree? i tested the completions for "spac", by browsing the /rc/tagged/ pages and changing the skipPosts parameter until no more posts were visible.
space -- 590
Empty Spaces -- 956
outer space -- 243
SpaceX -- 68
deep space 9 -- 106
so yeah, something's definitely off. i assumed it was just sorted by post count, but that's not accurate. maybe it also counts private/removed posts? or reposts, even though they don't appear on the tag page? perhaps it's more complicated
at this point i'd be okay with just saying "inscrutable" and calling it a day
the plot thickens. results for "phot":
photography -- 5990
photo -- 910
film photography -- 1700
photos -- 287
digital photography -- 431
also, the API returns a "similarity" score for each of the suggestions, which i assume takes into account both the usage and the actual similarity of each tag to the input.
even though the numbers i got are probably not very accurate, calculating similarity / nb of posts results in a number that is pretty close to length of input / length of suggestion. not perfect, but closer than i expected. (there's probably some extra math weirdness going on, but whatever)
so i guess it's possible to guesstimate the amount of posts per tag this way. neat!
anyway i'm done now, sorry for filling your comments with nonsense
there's a feature request on the forum thingy about this, that someone else put up. I chimed in to say that tags should always be visible on posts because it both lets you see what the original poster wanted people to see for tags, and lets filtering work correctly for muffles and such. I made a few suggestions.
cue power user types getting upset at me for daring to suggest that this is a problem, and claiming it'd just add clutter.
I got very sick of arguing that shit, and it kept popping up in my email every time someone chimed in -- and it was basically only those two dudes for a long time. hate it. can't even tell if the staff looked at that or have any plans to ever make tags visible on reposts, despite it being a much easier thing to implement than asks.
yeag i dont like how insular it is. i can't find anything good and i just see the same posts reblogged over and over. give me a popular tag at least, like if you're gonna copy tumblrs ui at least take the good parts
yeah increasingly i'm finding it's just a handful of big cliques based around who got here early it was largely friends of the developers first and grew from there.
this was sorta one of the many things we were getting at w/r/t our thing about how this site is going to have predictable problems stemming from that premise. turns out, making a system by and for "people that look and act mostly like me" generally doesn't pan out great, even if it's done as a co-op of nominal leftists
it wasn't long after joining cohost that I smelled what you were talking about. thanks for putting those thoughts and feelings to words.
yeah im pretty sure ppl found us just because we happened to help with a small part of the GBA emulator with a GIF for the screen feed that made the rounds even tho we didnt use this website until like half a year after that lol. its kinda cool tho cause we've met a ton of ppl from here that we didnt kno before we came here and that were not in our usual social circles but probs just luck i guess lol (and tag-searching cause we do that)
meeting ppl is not like unique to this website or anything tho like we also meet pplz on mastodon and thats neat u just kinda meet ppl wherever u happen to be talking to ppl i guess
anywayz it is like easier to write here than other places cause theres a good UI for post writing for us (which rly means: there is not rly much of a UI but it meanz nothing is gettin in the way and the texbox is big). but like RD had a way easier time finding the pony arts on tumblr just loggin on there for the first time recently.
itz still easier to find ppl who want to be found on here than mastodon tho....... xD xD
but yeah the bit where u cannot hide all reblogs from yr feed when u want to and the bit where reblogs get duplicated are both reasons we only follow like a rly small handful of accounts and just kinda occasionally peak in at other ppls' stuff from time to time. and also why we very rarely reblog anything
it really should be where if all you're doing is rebugging the same post as everyone else, it just gets bumped to the top of your feed and there's a list of the people you follow that have already done so.
i feel like there's a few possible conclusions u could walk to from here and i feel like one of them is accidentally reinventing the reddit upvote sorting algorithm
fortunately cohost does not have upvotes. or redditors (as far as I can tell).
of course, but the entire point is, it could be much easier to find people interested in the same stuff as you, with simple changes of site behavior like preserving post tags when rebugging.
