plural atomic queer, OG demon core
- they/them^xe/xer
we make bad posts // discord: atax1a
archive
atax1a.se30.xyz/
You must log in to comment.
in reply to @atax1a's post:
The last of the Terraforming Mars expansions kind of plays with this! One of the parties, the Reds, is simultaneously the communists and dedicated to keeping Mars red (i.e., unterraformed), arguing that this is a vanity project and our resources are better spent solving problems on Earth.
Of course because you (usually) play a profiteering corporation out to gain Mars-terraforming prestige, they're primarily a roadblock to throw in front of your opponents when they're ahead. But all their cards are 100% sincere in their position.
in reply to @atax1a's post:
seriously, imagine making the inference that we were somehow suggesting that these politics should also be centrist. lmao.
Oh I was making a joke riffing off the previous post, didn't mean to imply you suggested anything like that
I actually think "earth and sky" as a way to look at who cares about taking care of our society and who wants an eject button to mars (where they would presumably get in on the ground floor to be on top of the hierarchy this time) is a clever observation
I also think it maps to certain US protestant ways to look at the world vs a secular, materialist way. (sky and earth respectively, in which "sky" cares more about preserving their immaterial souls for the afterlife and "earth" cares about improving this life, this world)
oh! thanks, we're just being reflexively defensive against misreadings.
like most queers we have a serious bone to pick with Pie-In-The-Sky-When-I-Die christianity, to the point that we hadn't even thought about the second point until you pointed it out: we'd just taken that as assumed and wouldn't have been able to articulate it on the fly.
I understand! Tone is always hard to communicate online
And yeah, christianity is so entrenched in the culture here that sometimes it becomes almost invisible because it's just part of the background when it comes to... most issues.
Your post made me think of how "colonize Mars" dumbasses tend to disregard the damage SpaceX is doing by handwaving it as the "price of progress." Who cares about the suffering caused when the endeavor is so "important". And it reminded me of that specific christian attitude of seeing (earthly) suffering as acceptable and even desirable, if it's in service of "saving" their soul
one of our favorite goth-industrial albums has a line that goes "Now manifest destiny's a grand thing / Helps me understand things / Helps me when there's nowhere to turn" and we hear it being invoked ironically, in that the narrator can see the system and, when he has no other choice to make, he can look at it through that lens and try to break it — earlier in the album, he sings "But what you can't begin to see / And what you never quite believe / Is that were always fighting / And always trying / To see how we might undermine your needs // You're just a cog / In the time machine / You're just a pawn /You're addicted to greed"
i feel like that fits in here like another piece to a neverending tapestry
Oh it definitely fits and there's a whole other aspect of this attitude that ties into "growth at all cost" capitalism