baiyu

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Alright computer folks, I'm possibly in the market for a MacOS machine (laptop preferred but not required) and iPad so I can get my foot in the door for the Apple Developer Program and get some gay games on the App Store. I don't need a huge hulking monster of a computer since I mainly work with 2D games, but something that's a bit of an upgrade from my current machine would be much appreciated. I intend to only use this machine for game development and beta testing.

My current laptop's specs:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6500U CPU @ 2.50GHz 2.60 GHz
RAM: 16.0 GB
System Type: 64-bit OS, x64-based processor
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro

Nice to haves:

  • Can handle Blender for creating and rendering environments
  • Can handle having Unity and OBS open simultaneously
  • Not too heavy if possible

As for the iOS Tablet, don't need a heavy gaming tablet but something that's reasonably up to date will do.

My ideal budget for this is under or near the USD$3,000 price point for the hardware and initial year of Apple Developer Program fees ($99/yr), but let me know if there's a good reason to go over budget for this.


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Full disclosure: I used to use Macs as my main in the '00s, and I did full time 2D Unity development on Mac for many years thereafter without any issues. But, I haven't done much with a Mac since 2017 so I don't have personal experience of the current market or tech stack. Also, I've never used OBS.

All that said, from what I've read the new version of Blender is supposed to work really well on the M1 Pro chip!

If you need a laptop (rather than considering the Mac Studio with or without an external GPU), you could get the following for under $3K USD (at least from my IP):

  • Mac Book Pro
    • Apple M1 Pro with 10-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
    • 32GB unified memory
    • 1TB SSD storage
    • 96W USB-C Power Adapter
    • 14-inch Liquid Retina XDR display
    • Three Thunderbolt 4 ports, HDMI port, SDXC card slot, MagSafe 3 port

Hopefully this gives you a place to start! :3

I'm running a 2022 Macbook Air with the M2 processor and I can run a lot of heavy graphics programs on it at the same time—anything and OBS was a struggle on the Intel laptops but it's incredibly smooth. My machine was a little over $2k because I also sprung for 24GB memory; I think it'd probably suit your purposes.

also just to test I opened OBS and Unity at the same time. Still very smooth despite me also running like 800 other programs.

probably iPad wise the main thing you want to consider is storage space since games can get pretty bulky, haha

sorry for the incoming long comment

+1 for the M1 MacBook Pro spec out @MxAshlyyn posted if you can. That machine is the spec of machine we get at Unity if you're due a laptop refresh and you don't need Boot Camp support - just with the 16-inch displays. They can most certainly can do Unity & OBS simultaneously!

However, it does come with the caveat you can't get an iPad new and be within budget - that machine is (right now) $2,899.00 - sans iPad

To get back within budget, you could drop down to the 8-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 16-core neural engine. From what I remember, M1 machines typically comes with two "efficiency" (super low power draw, low performance) cores - so treat this for dev work as being a 6-core machine, with two cores for things like web browsing and email.

This lower spec I'd recommend for your budget is:

  • Apple M1 Pro (8-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine)
  • 32GB unified memory
  • 512GB SSD storage
  • 96W USB-C power adapter (don't get the 67W power adapter - it's $20 bucks more and will save you so many headaches)
  • $2,399.00

My reason for recommending the 32GB of memory is because on Apple Silicon, you're sharing memory between the GPU and the CPU, so 16GBs of memory would functionally be a step down from what you're currently using.

This should also be absolutely plenty for what you're doing, with it being solidly more powerful than my top spec 2019 i9 MacBook Pro (especially in real world usage, as they thermal throttle far less).

For an iOS tablet, Apple still sell the 9th gen iPad, which is mostly for education, but, it's still going to be plenty powerful - my housemate plays Genshin Impact daily on her 8th gen at 60fps at pretty good quality. This 9th gen iPad comes to $329 for 64gb of storage.

The 10th gen is a thing for $100 more, but, this is probably better put towards up-speccing your laptop, given Apple still supports the 5th generation of iPad, and many game devs will go older than that. If you do really want an iPad upgrade, I'd honestly look into Apple's refurbished store, and see if you can get an iPad released in the past couple of years with a good amount of storage. Apple treat refurbed products as new warranty wise, if that's a concern.

On that note - with a 9th gen iPad and the lower specced M1 Pro, and a year of Apple developer, you're coming in at $2,827.

With that, if you want, you've got some headroom to step up to the 10-core M1 Pro, or stepping up to 1TB of storage - both upgrades cost +$200, and in the long-term I (personally) think the higher specced M1 is more worth it, thanks to external & cloud storage being a thing.

Also good to note - for most apps (and pretty much All games), you'll be good without an Apple Developer account until you're later on in the porting process. Apple's free developer program mainly limits you in your builds can only last for 7 days without being reployed, but, for development purposes this is more than OK.

The only other big things is a paid Apple account giving you more integrations with Apple's services - think iCloud, Sign in With Apple, Game Center etc etc, as well as App Store submissions - but, this is very much something you can do later on when you need it.

TL;DR (and, my opinion ofc)

  • 32GB, 14-inch MBP with M1 Pro, spec it out with the 10-core CPU, 8-core CPU if you want to save the $200, or put that towards iPad upgrades
  • 9th gen iPad, 64GB of storage
  • Use free Apple Developer for as long as you possibly can