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cain
@cain

there's this particular form of leftist conservatism that i see both online and offline where some people will wholeheartedly support causes that have already been won in progressive circles, while being really condescending and aggressive towards the ones that are still being fought. like they'll support a trans person one minute but then laugh at them if that same trans person is really into animal justice or uses it/its pronouns or is part of a system or has The Unacceptable Type of disability.

i mostly see it in places like twitter but i've also walked away from a fair few IRL organizing meetings feeling tired and defeated because of it. but i haven't seen much of it on cohost!!! idk if it's because of how discussions here are inherently structured or if i just have very good taste in mutuals but anyway yeah i love this place

exerian
@exerian

pretty sure it's just the culture here. which is wild to me because i've jumped social media sites several times chasing more inclusive platforms only to find at each jump that actually they're not that inclusive. here, tho, i think i finally found home specifically because of the things you pointed out here.

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ghast
@ghast

I've seen this too. Some people truly use the status quo as their moral and political compass. You can't trust them because they don't actually stand for anything - most likely their opinions shift depending on who they're talking to, and even when their beloved status quo changes, they're quick to accept and adapt to the new normal. I think they're essentially just centrists who want to be involved but don't have deep feelings about anything that doesn't affect them directly.

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dwoboyle
@dwoboyle

This is not a justification, but people progress towards different things at different rates. So now they may not fully understand why something like animal justice or youth liberation are important but could come around to it given time. Even if they're rude and dismissive about it, just being like "hey this is actually a thing, check out x, y, and z about it" can get them thinking about it generally and eventually change their minds.

Obviously this isn't like an instant thing as it can take years (for example, for a long time I didn't understand police abolition and was initially dismissive of it), and nor is it your responsibility to make sure everyone you interact with has all the information. But y'know, choose your battles and assume folks are open to change.

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cain
@cain

You're definitely right that many folks are willing to change and it's worth engaging. It's just hard to not feel bitter when I'm at yet another post-protest lunch and some dude decides to get his nipples twisted about me ordering vegan lol. But most people are good!

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