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Side-by-side battery compartments make a lot of sense, but they're typically not used because they're more a lot expensive to machine than "long tube." And most lights that are made in squarer form factors use lipo cells that are not intended to be user replaceable, which I find objectionable.



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I do wonder at what point the price for these sorts of things goes from "small company without economies of scale that wants to avoid using slave/child labor while producing genuinely high quality products" to "just extorting amounts of money from people who don't know any better."

Like if my $400 for the flashlight is going towards paying some truly skilled craftsman a living wage I would consider it well worth the cost.

it's a mix of different factors

  • A huge selling point for the target audience is the jingoistic appeal of "made in america"
  • Folks who buy high-end custom lights and knives are often also treating them as expensive collectible "investments". Lot of "safe queens" in this product segment.
  • Some of these things use interesting or experimental designs that are hard or impossible to find otherwise. Hanklights are more powerful, more customizable, and vastly cheaper, but they're also mechanically simpler and use mostly if not all off-the-shelf parts.

That last bit is the part that interests me the most. (Not to the point of buying $400-500 lights though.)

You can get much more efficient performance in a small light using 2 cells, but almost all reasonably priced lights will put those two cells in a long tube configuration, which in this case would mean a penlight. Penlights are cool too, but there is something neat about something that fits easily into like a coin pocket.

I have one of the tiny RovyVon lights that's so small and light it can clip onto a shirt or the small pocket of jeans no issue and you might even forget it's there. But the battery is sealed in an un-openable plastic body from what I can tell. You might be able to break the adhesive to get the electronics out but it's definitely not encouraged by the manufacturer. I can see why one would be willing to spend up to twice the cost of that light to get one that's more modular.

To be clear, I'm not advocating buying $400+ lights, but do you have a $30 recommendation that's actually in this specific space? (Small 2-cell in side by side configuration, high CRI, decent UI, good runtime)

Because I would certainly be interested!

well i'm not sure about all of those things for $30 but i don't think the guys with the $400 joke light know what CRI is either. and their runtime is ass lol

anyway if you want legit tested flashlight recommendations check out Torque Test Channel's lists: https://www.amazon.com/shop/torquetestchannel/list/10CLML8M8C4YT

and their videos, in general. i don't even care about most of these tools and they are fun videos to watch

edit: nvm i guess it does say it has a CRI rating on the led they chose, but i don't think that's unique to them

Happily high CRI is easy to find now, in general, but when it comes to lights with a side-by-side cell configuration, less so. The less expensive examples I can think of, like the Sunwayman D20A, were not available in high CRI versions.

Same with the Nitecore ripoff of the old Coolfall zippo-style lights, which I actually have one of (I got it on clearance from, of all places, touch of modern, lol.) That's a very neat light, tiny but running on two 16340s and with a rotary continuously variable output. My clearance unit, however, is missing the detent that would prevent it from turning on in your pocket. And the emitter is cool white, alas, although I could just get it modded.

BTW, if you like budget hotrod lights, the place to go is https://intl-outdoor.com/. Extremely high performance and very customizable in terms of emitters, plus open-source firmware.

He now even has lights with a more runtime-friendly driver setup, which is very tempting for me, because I actually don't care about getting thousands of lumens for four seconds after turn-on.