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pervocracy
@pervocracy

I feel like it really Says Something About Society when employers ordering drug tests don't understand the question "which drugs do you want to test for?" and are just like "all drugs, obviously."

BRO THERE IS NO OBJECTIVE DEFINITION OF "DRUGNESS." BRO THERE IS NO SOCIAL NOR MEDICAL NOR LEGAL CONSENSUS UPON THIS MATTER. BRO YOUR ONTOLOGY IS SO FUCKED. BRO WE LIVE IN A WORLD OF PHENOMENA NOT CATEGORIES. BRO YOU'RE GRASPING AT THE SHADOWS ON THE CAVE WALL.

DiscoDeerDiary
@DiscoDeerDiary

All the drugs that make you commit murders according to a black and white film I watched in high school

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doodlemancy
@doodlemancy

the way that we managed to make the word "drug" into a slur in this country is absurd lol. like i remember being D.A.R.E. age and being taught to fear it and going on for several more years of my life thinking of it as straight up only a word for Bad Stuff until i had to, by necessity, discover ibuprofen and read the label

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pervocracy
@pervocracy

In nursing school they told us to always say "medication" instead of "drug" (except for the Bad Drugs) for this reason - so patients don't refuse ibuprofen because "I don't do drugs"

unfortunately this only reinforces the idea that good drugs and bad drugs are clear and separate categories

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doodlemancy
@doodlemancy

no degree, but chronic pain + i worked on the floor of a walgreens for a long time and answered a lot of "is this the same as advil?" questions that were answered, you know, on the label and it truly deeply frightens me how little a lot of people seem to know about really basic medical stuff lol

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amagire
@amagire

prison abolition except for whoever taught retail corporations the "if you have ever smoked a weed in your life, we won't have to pay for fixing your broken toes when you run over your foot with a pallet jack. also you're fired" trick

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amagire
@amagire

right yeah, a bit club-penguin-murder.jpg there. mostly they just use MANDATORY DRUG TESTING BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE AN XRAY, MOTHERFUCKER! to intimidate people into either waiving treatment or hiding on-the-job injuries.

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pervocracy
@pervocracy

we had an employer bring a guy in who had a very serious injury and was literally gray from shock and they insisted he be drug tested before they'd go to the ER.

(we declined and brought him to the ER because oh my god we're not having this guy die in our drug test bathroom, but they were mad about it)

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quyksilver
@quyksilver

At that point can't you test it the next time he pisses? Like he's in the ER and he's not going anywhere? Or do a blood test while you're doing all that other medical shit?

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pervocracy
@pervocracy

There's a whole Process to doing the test, it's not just peeing in a cup it's a bunch of security bullshit that isn't portable. (And we aren't allowed to do blood tests.)

So in practical terms we could, but in "beep boop I am Nurse Robot" terms we cannot.

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amagire
@amagire

my D.A.R.E. class in high school did pass around a baggie of stale shake so we'd all know what marijuana smelled like, and this educational moment undoubtedly saved me and many other classmates from later spending $40 on a tiny sack of oregano. the program works

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Kyresti
@Kyresti

"Here let me show you something that tests for literally ALL the drugs. Feel free to use it on all your employees, for the low low price of 'more than you're willing to pay any of them in a year' :p "
(P.S those aren't false positives that includes legal drugs too. Hey, you asked.)

(You know I literally got sent to addiction therapy for eating a poppyseed muffin one time? :p )

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