my friend ian — Today
Carrot cake with raisins and covered in frosting? Cake or muffin?
TRICK QUESTION ITS A TYPE OF BREAD
me — Today
Nah I like shame-based analysis
I would feel shame calling the sourdough rolls I made last night a cake, or eating them as though they were cake
Similarly I would feel shame calling the pear pudding I made last night a bread, even though it had flour and breads can contain fruit
And as a Tucsonan I would feel like part of the outgroup if I called a taco a kind of Sonoran hot dog, even though it's ostensibly a compliment to both
my friend ian — Today
BWAHAHAHAHA
me — Today
damn now i want a sonoran hot dog
my other friend billy — Today
you mean a taco
me — Today
blocked. blocked. all of you are blocked
my friend ian — Today
If you chop up the hot dog and make it like a coney island sauce (essentially ground hotdog) and then make it up like a usual dog, does it become more taco like? Does it become a taco, or does the width or material of the starch matter for dog vs taco? If you put a dog in a shell, is it a taco still?
me — Today
A la carte on a bun I'd still call it a hot dog-- perhaps a "deconstructed hot dog". The actual mechanics of eating, from picking-up to textural navigation, are very similar. For me putting it in a shell crosses the transept, because the visual symbol of the shell begins to recall the culinary tradition of the taco; yet I am still uncomfortable.
At that point it's kind of like asking "If I'm playing a deck with 4 Thoughtseize and 4 Lava Spike, is it Jund without green or Burn splashing black?" What we have on our hands is a failure. It's not that there are multiple elements, or even disharmony; it's that the message is "I don't want to be a food you know how to relate to cuisinally". And so I respect that muddled wish.