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CadenceCivet
@CadenceCivet

Fellow autistic folks. We need to fucking talk.

First off: Whoever keeps selling us the assumption that all of us, not some of us, but all of us were diverted into “Gifted children” programs needs to be held accountable. Whoever continues these memes, needs to be given a gentle reminder that placement in these programs is entirely contingent on being autistic in a Certain Way. This weird idea that all of us under the same umbrella are some kind of Intellectual Übermensch is seriously, seriously fucking disturbing and is starting to give some kind of weird, community-dividing supremacy vibes.

Which is exactly why I included the second picture in this series, from the same Mastodon account.

This isn’t emphasizing neurodiversity, this is outright declaring one specific strain of autism as the Correct and Culturally Acceptable Kind.

I wasn’t the Gifted Child autistic. I was the “I broke the rules and I’m going to have a meltdown in class” autistic. I was the “Can’t really recognize certain kinds of patterns” autistic. The socially-awkward but absolutely fucking struggled with mathematics and still struggles with computer coding concepts autistic. The ‘gets too many emotions from fictional characters’ struggles’ autistic. I continue to be the ‘Why can’t we just figure this shit OUT autistic’ and I do my damndest to make sure we CAN figure stuff out.

I took that ‘Gifted Child test’ god knows how many times and never made it in. In fact, I didn’t really start succeeding until about… third year of high school, when I started dual-enrolling in community college courses, something I absolutely believe everyone, and I do mean everyone, should have a chance to do. “Gifted” or not.

Folks, I assume that a lot of you have either graduated or possibly even dropped out from K-12, but this “We Were All Actually Gifted And Superior Children” shit needs to fucking stop. It’s not a good thing we should be encouraging, at all. It’s not just giving Cringy Reddit Vibes, but superiority vibes that we should be better than attempting to express.

Look. I know society infantilizes us, but this insistence that we’re Brainlord übermensch is not the way to compensate. It leaves a lot of folks who don’t have the same experiences as you are behind, and, speaking as a white, male-coded autistic individual, that should be saying something. I encourage others who don’t share my background to share their own issues that they see and have experienced.

In short, this “We’re actually secretly supermen” is gonna give off some weird fucking socially-stratifying almost culturally fascistic vibes and y’all need to fucking stop and consider what others have experienced. Just because you think it gives you a one-up against your oppressors doesn’t mean that it isn’t smacking back against others who don’t share your same, culturally-acceptable-in-the-face-of-your-disability traits.

Thank you.


kda
@kda

All of this, yeah. 100%.

Some additional thoughts I think really aren't as important but which I nonetheless feel like bringing up:


There's also a serious problem inherent to trying to make the case for autistic people being valuable because we'd be useful to the economy if we just got lined up with the right kind of work, or because we're exceptional at some things, or whatever the hell.

This problem is most acute with respect to, and most dangerous to, the many autistic people who are never going to be employable. The ones who can't put on a show of being acceptable to neurotypical sensibilities whatsoever. The ones who are most aggressively excluded from public life because they can't handle society as it exists today unassisted, or because they can't communicate verbally (or, in some cases, verbally and textually), or because they also have "scary", "dangerous" mental health complications alongside their autism.1

But even aside from the areas where this kind of exceptionalist outlook is the most exclusive, dangerous, and honestly traitorous against the people who most need help from those of us on the spectrum who are usually treated mostly like we're more or less people by most people off the spectrum,

we'd still be screwing ourselves over by taking this kind of line.

Hinging the value of autistic people on being exceptional is a problem for every average, or unremarkable, or even mediocre autistic person. "hire us; we're absolute geniuses at certain tasks" is going to hurt the many autistic people who don't have that particular strength. "we have (insert desirable personality characteristics here)" ends up implying that it's fine for us to be held to a higher standard in terms of self-regulation and everything than people off the spectrum.

Like, the goal shouldn't be reframing and rescripting a few stereotypes to open up jobs for a few more percent of autistic people, at the cost of aiming even more violence at those who don't meet the new, higher standards. The goal should be dignified treatment for all of us, period.


1 Related to this, people with fairly uncomplicated mental health situations aside from being on the spectrum engaging in any kind of "people with (diagnosis) are dangerous to autistic people" talk is definitely a phenomenon that needs more pushback wherever it arises. Like, congratulations on coming out of the trauma of living as an autistic person in an ableist society without having any Ontologically Evil Diagnoses or whatever the hell, but people with said diagnoses don't need additional fearmongering against them, and you're probably also signalling to tons of other people on the spectrum that you're an unsafe person.


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in reply to @CadenceCivet's post:

Couldn’t have said it better myself, especially in the last paragraph. That shit has always weirded me out, and I say this as someone who benefits from the “gifted kids are actually the next step in evolution” narrative, or whatever stupid, romanticized shit these people are going on about.

That second post.. What even is their point?
If you are something that most people aren't, then that means you stand out from the norm. Or, in other words, you diverge from what is seen as typical.

Making it sound like one is better than the other is just insulting to everyone who doesn't fit in that neat little box. Neat little box that doesn't even include the majority of neurodivergents btw.

In my experience, adults applied "gifted kid" or the r-word to an autistic child, and which one got used was entirely determined by social class. Born to rich parents? Your eccentricity must be because you're too smart to handle. Born to poor parents? Well...

My parents were on some downwardly-economically-mobile shit so I kinda got both treatments at once, lol. I never got into gifted courses, though. This is because in grade 1 the school wanted to put me in special ed, so my parents pulled me out of public school and started homeschooling me.

very similar weirdos do this with ADHD too and i hate it so much. these are just special brain wankers doing astrology with randomized excerpts from blogs that misread the DSM, it's so many degrees away from sensible or helpful it makes me want to yell at them. fucking miss me with this shit

This is why I like the term "neurodiversity" when talking about things in general because it emphasizes that there aren't "right" or "wrong" or "better" or "worse" ways of being, just different, and that it's something to celebrate.

as somebody who did really well as a "gifted kid" until mid-late high school, BLECCH. I've heard enough about "intelligence" enough to be kind of repulsed by the idea, and even the word, despite never having a solid grasp on what it's supposed to mean. (to preemptively clarify, only recently started to accept that the one random diagnosis of "aspergers" I got at one point may not have been a fluke) also feel some things about ADHD that another commenter brought up like, "why am I supposed to be good at multitasking?" I see this shit and I feel like I'm becoming an "antivillain" (whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean in relation to "antihero"). like, I'm told I've achieved things, but it feels so hollow when I can't say with any certainty that my work, etc. has made anything better. trusting in processes in the vain hope I would "get" it someday, turns out that was a stupid framework. like, I pretty much don't give a shit if you have "200 IQ" or whatever if all you do with that is become a finance bro and/or someone worse than that. Something something, "when did intellect become sexier than actual compassion and enthusiasm?"

I am self-diagnosed autistic. I did have the autism where it got me labeled as a genius, the smartest kid in class etc. All that ever did was leave me with fucking PROBLEMS. Do you realize how far it set me behind when I couldn't translate that early success into actual success navigating the adult world? There was big frustration not being able to get the hang of things that are intuitive for most people despite having an easy time picking up on calculus. I assume this is the case for most autistic people with similar "genius kid" experience like there's no way you can be that good at school without lacking in other areas. Iunno if the examples above were those "genius" types, but if they were, this shit just reads as insecurity and using a form of white supremacy to explain their way out of it.

Also, vast majority of kids I shared gifted status with weren't autistic. Most of them had supportive parents and/or were rich. I was extremely advanced DESPITE having autism/a really fucked up family.

As something in the overlap between the two categories, having a lifetime of people ignoring this doll’s real, deep problems or just expecting it to Gifted Kid them out of existence because it’s supposed to be smart and better is not any more charming for it than it is for OP. This rhetoric sucks and is harmful for everyone but a tiny handful of Acceptable Autistic Folks.

When i was a kid one of my teachers in my elementary school told my parents that I should be screened for "high IQ".
They did, and I was indeed diagnosed at like age 7 with a IQ high enough for my mom to decide to enroll me into Mensa.
Well, despite all this, i've spent the entirety of my school years just barely getting by, constantly on the brink of failing my grades. In fact I actually had to repeat one year of school because of it.
The only reason I didn't end up in a special-ed class or worse was because i had the luck of having awesome parents who made themselves my advocates in the face of the school system. And that probably is almost entirely due to social class factor. Had I not been lucky in that regard....
But even with that luck, one of the things that durably scarred me mentally was to see and hear the constant disappointment from people around me, including my parents. "You're so intelligent! And yet you're constantly failing. If you worked better, if you worked more... If you were less lazy."
I'll never forget my dad telling me "Ypu have an amazing toolbox in your head. Why don't you use it?".
And being brought up from a young age with all these ideas about what I ought to be, compared to what I actually was? It fucked me up.
It's only once i reached high school and got sent to a class where they put people who don't have the required level to get in a better class that I finally internalized that I was as broken as everyone else around me.
It was so liberating. I could finally start to actually relate to my comrades.
I was finally free.

Good post, I've been thinking a lot about how the Autism Supremacy thinking thing is just another way for (from my observations, mostly white) autists to engage in bigotry and supremacist thinking without going Fully White Supremacist. No thank you! I'm not better than anyone because I'm autistic, thanks!

Honestly, saying shit like, "Perhaps this group deserves human rights because they are magically more Gifted And Talented than the mundane majority and their special powers will save us from ruin!" is weird and harmful, and I'm tired of pretending that it isn't.

Multiple people who have higher support needs have spoken at length about how this is just a covert form of Aspie supremacy, and even though I am a former gifted kid with lower support needs, I'm still not a fan because the standards put into place by this mentality are borderline unattainable even for me. Why do I need to be a super-powered savant just to deserve basic rights and respect? You sure don't hold NT people to that standard!