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BUGHOLDER'S EPIPHANY @bugholdersepiphany10/14/2023, 5:29 PM

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Nick V @nickavv10/13/2023, 4:09 AM

Just saw this on bluesky

Funny cause not having to constantly have a take about current events is a feature to me, not a bug.

Edit, which I hope shows retroactively on shares: since this got seen by so many more people than I ever thought/hoped it would, I want to add this.
First: It has been pointed out to me that my interpretation of OOP's post was uncharitable at best. I never wanted this to be about dogpiling on them, definitely don't do it.

Second: I think this post came across as me being callous or even gleeful about not having an opinion and being indifferent to tragedy. I regret that, I am not indifferent to it, and I have lots of opinions about it. The part I stand by is that I don't think I should be compelled to post them because they are fundamentally uneducated (although getting better as I read more about it from people on here). And I don't necessarily think people should feel like they are entitled to know everyone else's opinion about everything that's going on in the world.

OK that's all, sorry

#bluesky #cohost meta

Amy Dentata @amydentata10/14/2023, 3:52 PM

i am begging people on these sites to realize that people have conversations offline

frankie boyle's beanbag chair of death @micolithe10/14/2023, 4:19 PM

Generally I don't care what people on Bluesky are saying because it seems like the vibes over there are borne of people who didn't find the same aspects of twitter as insufferable as we did but also: There was a huge essay Shel wrote about Israel and Palestine and Zionism that was making the rounds the past 3 days, to say no one is talking about Israel and Palestine is a little disingenuous.

Siërra R., "Botfly Mother "Inhaling The Sodium Vapors""@botflymother10/14/2023, 4:58 PM

ive seen so many posts about it. idk what theyre on about

BUGHOLDER'S EPIPHANY @bugholdersepiphany10/14/2023, 5:29 PM

Bluesky seems to be a rather cloudy if you get what I mean

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people shirt @hidden10/13/2023, 4:22 AM

i think the funny part about the bluesky post is that there IS people talking about it, it's just that stuff about current events and politics in general aren't huge on cohost unlike a good chunk social media so you won't see it here often .. unless you have tags about it bookmarked [i hope i worded this right ..]

Annie D @ann-arcana10/14/2023, 4:30 PM

One of the few posts I've seen about it was in fact a very long form piece on the history and ideology of the Zionist movement from an actual Jewish person, which I feel like is probably all by itself enough to balance out a million takes from clueless white leftists screaming random buzzwords at each other.

Nick V @nickavv10/14/2023, 4:31 PM

I learned a hell of a lot more from that post about the subject than I had learned about it total in my life up to that point

ebu @ebu10/14/2023, 7:36 PM

assuming y'all are talking about this one?

GFD @GFD10/13/2023, 4:35 AM

in Canada, we’ve already had our fill over thanksgiving of conservative uncles talking about all the awful shit the Hamas are doing without so much as a peep about how the IDF have killed far more civilians in this conflict, so i’m very happy to not see any further discourse flooding my feed on this site.

Nick V @nickavv10/13/2023, 4:36 AM

Why go on sites full of your racist uncle when you can have eggbug

The Web's Dear Freja @VampireExpert10/13/2023, 12:20 PM

This is funny to me because the first mention I saw of this recent thing anywhere was someone posting about it in the cohost global feed with no other tags.

eevee @lexyeevee10/13/2023, 3:13 PM

Sorry i forgot to finish my essay on whether war is good or bad

nora @nora10/13/2023, 5:27 PM

i get feeling like you're going insane seeing people not acknowledge what your people are going through, and i don't think labeling this as brainrot is very kind

Nick V @nickavv10/13/2023, 6:31 PM

That's fair, I don't know if the original OP has any personal stake in the events, nor did I check. I read their post differently

nora @nora10/13/2023, 6:34 PM

they do.

Nick V @nickavv10/13/2023, 6:36 PM

I've deleted that tag off of my post, you are right that it was not kind. Sorry

Coyote @osteophage10/14/2023, 6:15 PM

If you add an edit note to the main post, will it display retroactively in shares? It looks like people are continuing to share it in a mocking way.

Nick V @nickavv10/14/2023, 6:42 PM

I edited the original post with some additional thoughts and it does seem to show on shares. Thanks for the idea

videogames is one word @psilocervine10/13/2023, 8:53 PM

especially wild considering this is where I learned about what happened. really sounds more like an issue of who they're following

Μάρκος @postgarf10/14/2023, 2:59 PM

indigo's comment is exactly it, if i had to make a post about a current event every time it happened i wouldn't make it past a month. i miss when i could care specifically about all the horror of the world but i think after i got off of my adhd meds like very late 2021 i just couldn't take being so constantly overwhelmed with news anymore. i am so tired of everything, and so much of it is so far beyond my means to do anything.
my hottest take is that, actually, this is Pandora's Vox commodifying outrage, commodifying emotion, which serves the bottom line of where you're posting far more than it's helping anyone actually affected. it is, more than anything, a fucked up spectacle to scroll through for entertainment. if i am to post something online, willingly make myself a spectacle, then i don't need to use the suffering of others to further my own intentions of gathering likes and reposts.
tangentially related; twitter and places like twitter are a black hole of emotion, and i don't really know why, or what causes them to be like that. they are the purest expression of self commodification, but nobody seems to care.

Stubble Telescope @arbitraryreign10/14/2023, 4:20 PM

Thank you. It's strange because I usually use Instagram to avoid existence, but everyone feels obligated to post stuff they didn't write in their stories.

in reply to @amydentata's post:

Μάρκος @postgarf10/14/2023, 4:12 PM

god please

Jama @Jama10/14/2023, 4:43 PM

You don't even have to go offline! It's been the dominant topic in 3 discords I'm in this past week, it's just contained in a spot where people who want to engage with it can. We don't have to fill every space of our lives with the bad news!

in reply to @micolithe's post:

Osmose @Osmose10/14/2023, 4:26 PM

Agreed on Bluesky vibes, but I dunno that "doing the rounds" is really an a thing here. I saw Shel's post when it first went up and again when people have been resharing it recently, but there's been several posts in the past where I saw commentary on them or references to them in comments or other posts, and never saw the original post.

I think it's actually very possible, perhaps even likely, that most people on Cohost aren't seeing that post if their following bubble doesn't intersect with the various staff- or friends-and-family-adjacent bubbles that exist.

(I'm also realizing I'm not as big a tag-feed-user as lots of folks so who I follow is what primarily determines what I see here.)

frankie boyle's beanbag chair of death @micolithe10/14/2023, 4:30 PM

yeah i mean information definitely does not travel the same way it does elsewhere, but by that same token, people can't just make a blanket statement about "cohost" "not talking about something" when you've curated your own experience in the absence of an algorithm

Jama @Jama10/14/2023, 4:37 PM

How dare the TTRPG, Cats of Cohost, and NBA tags not address this issue.

Andréa, Canis Lanonbinary @CERESUltra10/14/2023, 4:42 PM

It sucks because there's so many angles on this. I've seen a few other posts on here about the situation, including a map with info that is gutwrenching, but it didn't do as big of rounds here.

I think there's criticisms to be had of how people on this site writ large don't engage with certain things, but there's also something to be said for the fact that people want to treat bluesky or cohost as some objectively better thing than the other.

Someone pointed out that the poster from bluesky is a palestinian worried about their people, and that puts another shade on all of this.

It's all immensely frustrating.

frankie boyle's beanbag chair of death @micolithe10/14/2023, 6:07 PM

that seems like pertinent information that should've been included with the original post!

but also: what benefit is there to me going "Israel and Hamas are both awful and Palestinian citizens are stuck in the middle" that doesn't add anything to the conversation really

I spent almost all my 20s terminally online in Political Takes 24/7 Mode and it's simply not possible or good for your mental health to be on the attack politically like that all the time, it's draining as hell.

Andréa, Canis Lanonbinary @CERESUltra10/14/2023, 8:00 PM

And like I get that, and I came from the same place too, but it feels like there's a serious all or nothing approach people have to it that flattens the shit out of it these days, like the original choster just sort of breezing over there might be more to that person's frustration than "too online".

To say that "no one is talking about it" can take on a range of meaning. I'm not necessarily looking for people's hot takes, but things like Shel's really good explainer of Zionism's fascist bent and other people posting "hey, here's some places to send aid to Palestinians that are vetted, here's how to help" are examples of talking about it that actually help.

I think you hit upon the most important point there, which I wish people would mention more. Regardless of what Hamas did or what Israel has been doing for decades, there are people who are suffering endless violence for nothing, and I wish they instead of two extremist governments were the focus of all this.

But then again I have been keeping track of things in Palestine since Israel's war crimes against Palestine in 2006, before being terminally online in the 2010s, so maybe I've just lost perspective. This feels extremely important and terrifying to me in a way that most online political stuff never did, but my knowledge base in my feelings on it come from a much more offline space. That angle it's going to make me more sensitive to things than the average person, and that's not necessarily a good thing

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