as someone who was considering dusting off an ancient pillowfort account, this is a timely read.
Also "digital disaster tourist" is an excellent phrase that will now probably be coming up in my head constantly as I look at social media
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as someone who was considering dusting off an ancient pillowfort account, this is a timely read.
Also "digital disaster tourist" is an excellent phrase that will now probably be coming up in my head constantly as I look at social media
I am small time. I have no direct interaction with pillowfort. But seeing how they record and report on people? Even when they explicitly don't want that? And how often they focus their exposé on minorities? How hard do they have to go before they cross the line into just "plain harassment campaign"
And that's my only impression of pillowfort. As far as I have seen, that's what they Do.
A certain clique has styled themselves like some kind of documenting of cohost but it's honestly creepy af.
EXACTLY what I was thinking. Community interested in collecting evidence on others for their own amusement and to weaponize when it suits them.
Here is user @honeybees on Pillowfort commenting on one of these cohost news posts, talking about how Alyaza and I specifically kept anonymous asks open despite talking about receiving racist asks, commenting that we must "secretly have wildly uncontrolled victim complexes," are "a bit of a digital munchausen," and remark that there are "some professional victim types out there that NEED to feel attacked constantly or else they seem to lose their way."
and yeah thats precisely my point when i say it's like a digital munchausen thing - they get to be treated like a victim (or in some cases a noble and proud warrior defending themselves) and get the positive attention that comes from it. ive seen this pan out very many times and all i can think is it's your choice, ultimately, whether to engage or not. and if it's a legitimate form of online self harm then you have to break that cycle one way or the other. not something most are cognizant of, though, so it persists ever onward lol
I found this post yesterday. Before this, Bee and I were mutuals on Bluesky. In the past, she messaged me to say she was sorry to see how much shit I was going through on cohost, and commiserated with me about how awful the dogpiling here had gotten. It was fucked up beyond all belief to see that this whole time, she had been on Pillowfort gleefully discoursing over me, literally depersoning me in order to talk about the "concept" of me I guess, to use as her case study to talk about how digital Munchausens "get to be treated like a victim (or in some cases a noble and proud warrior defending themselves) and get the positive attention that comes from it."
She did all of this in a place where I was unlikely to see it, where I cannot reply nor block/report her, and among people who have no idea who I am or why I kept anonymous asks open for as long as I did. Tell me: does this sound to you like a group of enlightened, empathetic, social justice-minded people discussing the issues of racism affecting POC? Or does this sound like a group of whites who have no idea who I am and have zero interest in knowing, publicly snarking over my pain for entertainment and to feel loftily superior for being on a different platform, as if racism and shitty whites can be contained on a single website? Why the fuck would you think talking ABOUT people rather than WITH them would not make folks feel literally objectified, dehumanized, and like you're reading fuckin Encyclopedia Dramatica articles about yourself that are meant to be consumed by rubberneckers for lolcow entertainment?
All of you over there, you are talking about real people with real problems and real lives, not a bunch of blank dolls marked "POC." I am VERY fuckin raw about this right now. I am NOT in a charitable mood, and I do not trust white cohost users to post about me or that situation right now in good faith, let alone you vultures at Pillowfort devouring my pain along with a bag of popcorn. I resent being your case study, your frog pinned open to be dissected.
tl;dr you are all ghouls, when people tell you to STOP but you continue to do it anyway then you are NOT coming from a place of empathy no matter how many times you write that word in your walls of text, fuck you
The fact I've seen this almost exactly said by actually straight up white supremacists whenever people got upset is just. Huh.
This isn't meant as an accusation but I do feel it's a very ingrained mindset people who have benefited from colonialism, especially without realizing, latch onto and have a hard time realizing is a very bad world view. Because they aren't trying to argue with you, you upset them first especially while they already were upset. Basically you're response here is extremely insensitive and frankly inappropriate
"I can excuse racism but I draw the line at a cuss!"
"You can excuse racism?!"
It is representative of what can happen when you are decoupled from your words and your words turned into spectacle, discourse, something to be consumed. It was an inevitability, not an aberration.
All of you over there, you are talking about real people with real problems and real lives, not a bunch of blank dolls marked "POC." I am VERY fuckin raw about this right now. I am NOT in a charitable mood, and I do not trust white cohost users to post about me or that situation right now in good faith, let alone you vultures at Pillowfort devouring my pain along with a bag of popcorn. I resent being your case study, your frog pinned open to be dissected.
tl;dr you are all ghouls, when people tell you to STOP but you continue to do it anyway then you are NOT coming from a place of empathy no matter how many times you write that word in your walls of text, fuck you
If they think I'm understating the meanness/cruelness, they are free to disagree with me.
LMFAO unless one of the subjects of your posts over there get needlessly hostile about it I guess
you treat people posting about the racism they're dealing with like zoo animals to scrutinize and it's pretty disgusting.
Word of advice: stop digging. If someone is expressing that this analytical game you’re playing is bothering them and hurting them, the response is not some sort of justification as to why it’s fine, actually. It’s to think about why someone might say this, recognize that you fucked up, even if you think the intentions are good, and stop trying to speak for the whole site when you give your own excuses. Hold yourself and your peers accountable and apologize.
You know how you change the reputation of a place like that? You work to make sure what happened doesn’t happen again.
oh god wait the pillowfort voyeurism is still fucking happening god damnit