ceargaest

[tʃæɑ̯rˠɣæːst]

linguist & software engineer in Lenapehoking; jewish ancom trans woman.

since twitter's burning gonna try bringing my posts about language stuff and losing my shit over star wars and such here - hi!


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cathoderaydude
@cathoderaydude

my favorite thing about speedrunning is that if you knew nothing about it, you'd assume that most of the glitches and tricks were discovered by programmers with disassemblers tearing apart the ROMs, since we have that power now. nah. it's like 1%, if that. other than the fucked up "replace the item donkey kong is holding with whatever he last bumped into" shit, almost everything else is "well i was on my fortieth run that day and i accidentally hit B in the middle of a jump and passed through a wall. then we all got on the discord and watched the VOD over and over while screaming until someone managed to replicate it"


twilight-sparkle
@twilight-sparkle
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estrogen-and-spite
@estrogen-and-spite

I can't help but wonder if there's a correlation between any particularly infamous instances of a glitch that couldn't be easily recreated, and people getting more religious about using their input views religiously. Like...is there any glitch out there that took years to recreate or never could be replicated because no one had the inputs?


RobinProblem
@RobinProblem
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estrogen-and-spite
@estrogen-and-spite

That's one of my favorite glitches and I personally subscribe to the cosmic ray theory (not for any scientific reason, but because the idea that space rays from space caused it make me giggle.) I just can't help but wonder if that run had input view on and, if not not, if the attempts to replicate it would have gone differently if it was present.


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in reply to @cathoderaydude's post:

My favourite one of these is in Ocarina of Time, you can get King Zora to give you the eyeball frog during the "have the Zora's tunic" dialogue by just holding R while having any other trade item. Which is more or less how it was discovered.

OoT speedrunning is so oriented around the shield, hitting R is just instinctive behaviour - still wasn't found til like 2012.

Once before at European Speedrun Assembly, I left my headphones plugged into one of the PCs being used for practice runs at the event. Later, while someone else was on practicing a Star Trek game (I forget which one) I passed by and was all "hey I'm gonna need those back" and unplugged my headphones. This caused the currently playing cutscene to skip the otherwise unskippable line of dialog that was playing, and it turned out with more experimentation that yeah, you could skip through dialog faster by disconnecting and reconnecting the speakers/headphones. I think that might still be a legit strat

in reply to @estrogen-and-spite's post:

There have been glitches where someone did it, had no idea what happened, and it went forgotten for years until either someone did it again or rewatched it and realized wait, that's huge

Two of them I know of come from Ocarina of Time:

  1. Guy opens the menu, equips an item, gets the wrong one. At the time they're just "wait wtf where did the chicken go?" Years later someone realizes that in certain situations, with good timing, you can equip items you're normally not allowed, and this person had just done that and not even noticed until they realized they had the wrong item.

  2. Someone noticed a funny visual bug where you could get a monster stuck to you and wear it as "armor". This was assumed to be useless until several years later when someone found a similar bug to move a door using a boomerang. Turns out this was a use-after-free bug that could be exploited to reprogram the game from the inside out, and for ages people thought it could only be used for a funny useless gag.