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Codarobo
@Codarobo

Hey does this mean we can go back to hating copyright though, i liked when we all agreed copyright was a bad system instead of one we need to expand

I feel like we’ve just been through a bizarre period of copyright becoming inexplicably popular amongst creative leftist types online because of AI stuff and while I’m sympathetic to that I think copyright is, on balance, much worse


MoxieCat
@MoxieCat

"Artists should have control over how their work is used, as a matter of basic respect!"
Yeah!!

"Therefore we should strengthen the laws that major corporations have exploited for decades to gain a stranglehold on creative industries and keep certain artists on a leash."
Wait, no, hold on-


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in reply to @Codarobo's post:

copyright has always been dogshit but i think there is definitely room for "copyright sucks ass and is way too long" and "we shouldn't allow everyone's creative work to be hoovered up by a machine to avoid copyright"

I don’t disagree, there’s just been for a couple years a lot of people explicitly cheering for US courts to expand copyright in cases related to ai. I think there should be other avenues for regulation besides copyright

there should, yet there aren't. copyright is presently just about the only law on the books that purportedly confers the rights to the fruit of one's own labor (which is obviously why most places you lose any and all copyright to anything done during work, on company equipment, or even (in texas) while you have a job at all)

it's a vile tool of capitalists and it's also all we have. master's tools master's house moment 📸

in reply to @MoxieCat's post:

That’s totally it for me. Benn Jordan made a video awhile back that really resonated with me about how AI generation
(in the context of the music industry, specifically, since that’s his area of expertise) was small fish compared to… everything the big labels have been doing to artists since literally the beginning of the industry, and that even if you could get rid of it entirely, it really doesn’t fix what was already deeply fucked. Strengthening copyright is a devil’s bargain to give those corporations even more power over people actually making stuff, in ways that will outlast the current trend in AI.