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I'm Kitty (and so can you!)

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Just a leopard from Seattle who sometimes makes games when she remembers to.


tati
@tati

if you right-click the speaker icon in the windows 10 taskbar and click "open sound settings", a windows 10-style panel called "Sound" opens. if you click the "Sound" option further down the context menu, it opens a windows xp-style panel. the "Sound" option is linked from Sound as "Sound Control Panel". the "Sound" option also has a link to "Manage sound devices" which is an internal panel that performs the same functions as the "Sound" option, except for managing the sound theme, which is found in that panel under the tab... "Sounds".


psilocervine
@psilocervine

every so often I'll have people say to me that MacOS is harder to use than Windows and they list off a whole bunch of grievances and I tune out because I immediately start thinking about shit like this that I have to do at least twice a week for various reasons


psilocervine
@psilocervine

to elaborate further on this, I think that windows 8, legitimately, might actually be the worst thing to ever happen to windows from a UX perspective. the very second there was any divide between the primary modes of interaction with the OS was the point of no return as far as getting anything even remotely advanced done. they add in this whole-ass tile interface, one of the most half-baked thing I've ever seen in a production OS, but properly realized "wait, what if people need to actually get shit done?"

so they keep the old desktop interface in there. alright, fine. but the tile interface was intended to be easy to use and upfront with relevant information, which meant it needed its own settings panel. okay. annoying. but okay. so naturally what they do is shove everything they can into that thing, sometimes taking them out of control panel entirely, sometimes having some overlap, and, in more advanced cases, sometimes having that settings panel bring you to the control panel because there was no clean way to divide those things

but it doesn't stop there! because they also decided to make it so that the desktop version also needed a simplified settings menu, which I actually do agree with! but sometimes that settings menu would actually bring you to the tiles settings menu in the case of certain things that were shared because they really wanted that whole situation to be a thing. they were banking huge on the idea that everyone would be using touchscreen devices like the surface because, like many tech companies, they did not understand the popularity of tablets and smartphones

so what we've ended up with, because of this absolutely bizarre half-commitment to a new interface paradigm, is three separate settings systems, all of which have some degree over overlap with one another, and there's basically no unifying design to the OS because every single aspect of having two desktop modes works against this at its core!

AND THE WORST PART IS THAT THIS IS LITERALLY ONLY ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT CAME WITH WINDOWS 8 THAT WE STILL DEAL WITH IN SOME CAPACITY TO THIS DAY


ticky
@ticky

the "category view" introduced in XP marked the beginning of the end, it got worse over time but this is where they began to muddy the waters

this already set up a dichotomy of "classic" vs "category" view which made it harder to navigate, rather than easier

it got worse in 8, for sure, in truth if Microsoft had committed to any single UI overhaul (they had like 4 of them between 98 and now) and seen it through we'd have at least one fewer of these options

instead we got a toe dip into Metro before immediately turning tail and running, and now everything is compromised

I still firmly believe they should've committed to Metro as a new OS, instead of bolting it to the Windows Desktop and ruining the chances of either succeeding


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in reply to @tati's post:

I was doing some network shenanigans yesterday and was laughing at how many times I need to switch between the Windows 10 'settings' style menus and the Windows 7 'control panel' menus, this post was like laser targeted for me lmao

just in case it's helpful, there is a small app called Audio Switcher that has greatly simplified such switching for me. with this whenever i want to switch sound sources / outputs i just press a corresponding keyboard shortcut.

it appears the developer went AWOL but i see that the latest version on GitHub (2018) still works in Win11. (i use it in Win10)

in reply to @psilocervine's post:

Increasingly I find myself preferring Linux just because it at least knows it's a messy bitch. You know what you're getting. Windows is the bad date who promises to change but can't, macOS doesn't agree that it should change.

linux "oh you want to change sound settings? get one of the 50 sound settings changer apps. or use the terminal. or use your desktop environment's settings panel if it has the settings you need"

linux "oh you want to edit your sound settings? scroll this list. oh btw your scroll wheel will change the sliders as you scroll"

linux "oh you want to change your volume? press fn+volume up. oh, you released fn before releasing volume up? now every key you press will increase your volume until you press fn again"

i genuinely miss linux so much i want to go back. wsl isn't the same.

in reply to @ticky's post:

i really appreciate seeing other people say Metro is a godforsaken mess so microsoft can't gaslight me into thinking i'm missing something or just being stuck in my ways

like god if they'd actually commited, it wouldn't have been so bad. i stuck on 8.1 because i thought 10 sucked (and also 11 sucks) and like. it's not bad. Granted i barely use the "metro screen" replacement for the start menu, but the things that come up when you do win+s, win+f, win+r, etc, the charm bar, all that stuff is nice