Yes, I still use the same hard disk platter as a drink coaster. But I need more ISA cards in my collection.


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@staff

also the August 2024 financial update, but I’m trying not to bury the lede.

Hi everyone,

We have come to the decision to cease operations of cohost and anti software software club due to lack of funding and burnout. As of today, none of us are being paid for our labor1; all of our money in the bank, and any money coming in from people who buy our merch or don’t cancel cohost plus, is going towards servers and operations — paying the bills so we can turn the lights off with as little disruption as possible.

cohost will become read-only on Tuesday, October 1st. At this time, we will make best-effort attempts to keep the servers online through the end of 2024.

Development focus has immediately shifted to data export. We have offered minimal data export for GDPR compliance for a while now, but this is a barebones system that doesn’t meet our quality standards. We will be improving this system over the next few weeks and will issue full data exports for all users when the site goes read-only. We will continue to offer downloads of your data export through the end of the read-only period.

When the read-only period concludes, we will delete all of your data from our servers without a backup. Even now we want to reiterate that we think “data brokerage” and other common practices of the software industry are inimical to who we are as people, and we would never consider selling your data to others or asserting any rights to stuff you posted under any circumstance.

Majority control of the cohost source code will be transferred to the person who funded the majority of our operations, as per the terms of the funding documents we signed with them; Colin and I will retain small stakes so we have some input on what happens to it, at their request.


  1. on that note, we’re looking for new jobs. we’ll each be posting about that bit individually.



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Thank you for all the effort you've put into running the site over the past few years, seriously, and thanks as well for giving us a good amount of warning on it shutting down. I'm wishing you all the best of luck with your future careers!

really sad to hear, cohost has been such a cozy little geek corner to meet new folks in. I would not have met many new people that have significantly changed my life over the past year were it not through the contacts I made here.

I appreciate all y'all have done, and I really appreciate the way you're handling the wind-down. It's surprisingly comforting knowing everything I've chosted shall return to the digital dust from whence it came.

I wish y'all the best of luck in the future and I'll cherish the few years of chill this site gave me :eggbug:

Thank you for all your work and efforts.

I loved being here. I will miss this space. It is something really special.
Sad to hear this.

Thank you so much for even trying

well, not really a viable alternative to cohost, but you can post (kinda) interactive videos in the form of code (runs in your browser, very likely to not hack you), and comment on them (plus bbcode), and it has a half-baked api (in this context, half-baked means HOLY SHIT! HALF A CAKE!)
vibes are half-formal, as in: kind + jokes. you cannot bring yourself to be mean

This was the only place online that ever felt safe, and ever felt like home. I'm sad beyond measure. There were so many connections made, and now so many will be broken, and lost.

Thank you all for making CoHost. Your work was and is valued deeply. It was beautiful while it lasted.

Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for making Cohost. This place facilitated the healthiest relationship I've ever had with social media, and I'm deeply appreciative of the attempt to make a more ethical social media platform.

Well my heart just shattered. Where do we go now? Tumblr sucks, Pillowfort is a joke, nobody seems interested in using whatever that fediverse version of this kind of platform is called...

Thanks for all you guys did. I just wish it didn't come to this. Hopefully someone will be inspired enough to make something like this elsewhere...

Thank you for everything 💙 I've met a number of wonderful people through this site, and it's been a consistent bright spot for me over the past few years. I hope all of you can find a way to keep doing the work you love in a way that supports your values ✨ It's been a pleasure being a part of this site of yours

I'd like to thank all of you for all the blood, sweat and love you've poured into this site. It's been one of my favorite websites and I'm gonna miss it dearly. I guess plush eggbug will always be a reminder of what could've been

I do recommend setting a data export deadline before the final day of operations, so that there is buffer for processing last-minute exports and allowing people to download them.

Aside that: Sad to see it go, and thank you for the hard work. You deserve the break, and good luck on the future endeavors, everyone.

Y'all tried your hardest and it was a number of hard problems to solve. Be proud of the work you did and the cool posts you helped enabled by making this space. I hope you can all find work that is more rewarding and less taxing once it's over :unyeah: Thanks for making cohost!

thank you very much for everything you've done <3

it's been beautiful, and it really showed everyone here what the internet could be

proposed FAQ entry: will the data export be only things we authored, or will it include the contents and metadata of posts we reshared and comment threads we participated in? what about interactions with things we authored?

we ask this because we know that the simplest GDPR strategy is the one twitter uses; Twitter, for example, takes the legal and technical position that if you have a conversation in DMs, only the messages you sent are yours, so the export only has your half of it.

yeah, it sucks to have a complicated legal question while you're winding down. sorry :(

data exports only contain your data, they will not contain other people's data.

if the content was all public, it was likely captured by archive.org, which we plan to redirect all cohost links to in the future. hopefully, you'll be able to see comments there.

Thank you for helping me meet a few new friends and making me feel like a human more than an audience member on the internet. Doing good in the world isn't measured by how many money points you accumulated, it's how many people you impacted positively, and I think y'all managed to do that a lot

This sucks. But I want to say thank you! Thank you for carving out a new space online, thank you for giving me a place to find people who shared my interests in YouTube and ttrpgs, and thank you for making cohost, cohost.

Ive really enjoyed being here, but I appreciate your transparency in addressing this. Wishing the best of luck to you and the rest of the team, even if its ending sooner than ideal, you guys still created a great space.

damn, I'm really bummed to hear this. but thank you so much for making cohost and developing it - I've really enjoyed using it, and I hope in the future that a place like cohost will reemerge (hopefully with some input or advice from you all - your work should never be discredited!)

This was a grand experiment that I was all too happy to be a participant in. I had a feeling it would end this way, but I’m glad ya’ll tried it anyhow. If anything, it proves that large scale social media’s costs are only bearable through extensive data harvesting and exploitation, which is that much more motivation to toss it all out into the garbage and build something better.

Thanks again for all the work you put into this. I loved my time here, and wish you all the best of luck in whatever endeavors come next. CoHost may be but a blip in the timeline, but it was one hell of a blip.

you all should be really proud though. you made a really special place. Going to miss this a lot a lot. might sound flip but honestly the NON-app, website only aspect of cohost enabling porn and tons of related expression is possibly something I might wind up missing most. I hope future folks who attempt something like this in the future take note. thank you staff ❤️💔

So what about Artist Alley? I'm assuming that has to shutter at some point before the end of the year, just so the then-existing ads can run their course. But are you going to stop accepting them in October when things go read-only, or at some other date?

yes, the alley is going to be shuttered. we stopped accepting listings a few days ago, and anyone with a pending listing will have it rejected and refunded.

existing listings will simply run out their duration

Incredible shame. The Alley was the first place that felt like it was worth our money to advertise in. We were building some kind of small following here that algorithms wouldn't allow us elsewhere. Dust in the wind.

I am so incredibly sad to read this... but I completely understand. Thank you so much for all of your hard work in creating and maintaining this unique space. I will surely miss this site and all of the people here. I wish the best of luck to all of you in your future endeavors. 💜💛

I'm devastated but I understand. Thank you for keeping the dream alive as long as you could. This place really felt like home from the moment it started. I don't know what could possibly take its place.

How will data exports work for reblog chains? Is there are multiple users in a reblog chain, one of which is you, will you be getting the data of every post in the chain, or just yours?

How will data exports work for reblog chains? Is there are multiple users in a reblog chain, one of which is you, will you be getting the data of every post in the chain, or just yours?

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck man. I've only been here a few months, maybe a year, but I was really hoping this place would grow. It was such a nice, cozy alternative to some other sites. This is really sad. I hate that it's so hard to be successful without stooping to basically being spyware like all the mainstream social media sites.

Serious respect to everyone who helped keep the site running without a break or a paycheck though. Criticisms and issues aside, very few people would work non-stop and be on-call year-round without pay.

As of today, none of us are being paid for our labor

meaning they were taking a paycheck until now (payroll has always been a large portion of their operating expenses). props for the work that they did, but it was paid.

Don't worry, they were definitely being paid! I couldn't find the numbers for this year, but the May 2023 update said they were each making ~94k/yr (usually mods aren't paid as well as programmers, which sucks and it's good Cohost opted to pay everyone equally) and they do annual cost-of-living raises. Presumably the last August paycheck will be the last one ever, which sucks, but they were getting paid up until now.

Hey, before you guys shut the doors, you say the policy change at Stripe is largely the cause of this, due to their stance on tipping. Okay, but what if it’s not tipping, and you position it as people purchasing digital goods, and then just give people who buy cohost currency a little thing for their profile (like tumblr does). Surely that solves that problem?

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incredibly unfortunate news, even if it did kinda seem like it wasn't gonna last forever.

Thank you for the work you all put into this site, even if I didn't really use it much it was still a lovely little hub and community to scroll through and read, the atmosphere overall was honestly unique imo.

very grateful for the bit of time this site will exist for and has existed.

this was pretty much the only shot at a good social media, i don't expect there to be another. weird enough it happened once.
and it says a lot about rich people that not even one would just no-strings-attached give cohost a million dollars.
very sad day for the internet imo

So the train is making its final round, eh? All good things must come to an end, I suppose. I shall ride the train to its final destination and go from there. Thank you, Cohost. May we meet again in the future.

yall have been wonderful. Too much to say for a single comment. Please rest up, we'll all see each other again somewhere sometime, never gonna forget this place and these people (creatures).

thank you for making cohost, eggbug will never die :eggbug-classic:

i'm sorry this didn't work out. been rooting for you the whole time, despite everything. i hope y'all are able to unwind and deal with the burnout, and can move forward knowing you built what is still the coolest social media to exist. thanks for all the fun!

Gods damn it... and here I was going to be getting the subscription as a gift to myself with my birthday next week, because this site has been such a joy. This just... fuckin' SUCKS, yo...

... I do, genuinely, hope you all land on your feet, and thank you all for your hard work and dedication all these years. It's meant the world to more than a few of us, as I'm sure you're aware at this point.

i'm sorry this didn't work out. been rooting for you the whole time, despite everything. i hope y'all are able to unwind and deal with the burnout, and can move forward knowing you built what is still the coolest social media to exist. thanks for all the fun! good luck with everything!!!!

This might actually be the worst news I've received all 2024.

But sincerely, thank you all for all the hard work you've put into this website. I loved it, it was an incredibly cool place. I wish I had been able to financially support it.
Best of luck with all you do in the future. RIP coolest website ever.

This is so incredibly sad. Cohost helped us immensely as a system, put us in contact with so many new friends and was the only social network that we really enjoyed. We've felt bad for not checking on it too much recently and it sucks that this happened before we had much of a chance to come back to the site. :(

Thank you so much for the one place that felt like it could actually be a home to me. No other website really... "fit" this comfortably before. I'm really heartbroken to see things go this way - but I commend you all for... actually knowing when to stop, and avoid hurting yourselves.

This was a marvelous testament to what the internet could be. I really pray it isn't the last, by your hand or another's - and that you all can still continue to make marvelous things in your futures.

Damn, sorry to hear. I was really hoping this site would push through, I really enjoyed it for what it was.
I hope that at some point maybe you guys can cobble up a plan and bring back Cohost in the future, but thanks for the effort and everything else.

Thanks for putting this place together and generally fighting the good fight. Even if Cohost didn't ultimately end up being sustainable, it was still successful in building a nice place for a community to flourish.

Thanks also for having a clear and very responsible/friendly plan for shutting this place down gracefully.

Good luck with your future endeavors, and hopefully enjoy a good break from customer service and on-call!

thank you so much for all your hard work. cohost was a gentle warm glow in an otherwise pitch black shitscape. i'll miss it, though at least i'll have my eggbug to hug.

best wishes to you all for whatever comes next 💜

even if i wasn't able to break the curse of "mentally stuck on larger websites" i appreciate what this site set out to do and it's sad that the decision had to be made to cut it off.

wishing the best for it for whatever y'all do next!

Disappointingly inevitable. Y'all, this is why people kept suggesting (among many other things) accepting community moderators - so you wouldn't burn yourselves out.

I wanted the site to work out but the math could never add up without change. Thanks for the effort, hopefully whoever tries next learns from this.

I've met people I wouldn't have otherwise and found artists I would not have seen anywhere else because they'dhave been buried under stats and algos. The same could be said for those who found me here.

I'm grateful for what you've built and I hope the next chapter's good for each and every one of you. Thanks for having us.

RIP. 😢

You were one of the friendliest and endearing (non-Discord) social media sites that I had the pleasure of frequenting.

Thank you for all the time you put into this site. Many thanks to all the people and communities who contributed to this being such a small yet lovable place. 🫂

May we meet again in the future. 👋

i always knew this was an inevitability, and i've been prepared for a while now. i did still hope we had at least a couple more months left in the tank though, and the shutdown was always gonna be a sad time. nevertheless - don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened. there's a lot about online community building that we've learnt from cohost, and i hope we can bring those lessons along to whereever the wind takes us next.

thanks for making cohost, everyone

Cohost was built with care, novelty, and sincerity - and what a great idea it was, at alllmost the right time. It led me to learn and create new things while being inspired by all the talented creators.

To the team, you're super skilled and obviously hard working, and I'm so sure you have bright futures ahead. Surely it'll be bittersweet to not have to worry about the project anymore, but do know you did an incredible job keeping it going this long, and don't be discouraged to follow your next dreams. Rock on :)

I'll eventually have to make a final post to bookend my time here, though I guess the server is currently stressed by the sudden news haha.

One request though! I'd love for the export to include both the pre-parsed "raw" posts, and post-parsed HTML versions. :eggbug-classic:

well, damn

thank you all for making this place what it was, if always felt better than any other site, I enjoyed opening the site and there wasn't some itch in the back of my mind to open it when I was away

a low bar perhaps, but one you more than surpassed, I'll think about this site for a long time to come

thank you for making cohost, and sharing it with the world

RIP. Genuinely enjoyed this place and thought it was heading in the right direction. Fingers crossed that its financial backer does something good with its source code in the future. Take care of yourselves.

Honestly, Cohost has been a wonderful experience, and I'm sorry to see it go.

I truly appreciated watching a place exist in this day and age which was functionally enshittification-proof, and frankly we need a lot more places like this than we actually have.

All our love, and best of luck in finding new gigs when this one is over. <3

Ouch, that hurts.
Thank you guys for the amazing work you've been doing while it lasted. This place felt like home, and it's the only one I've cared for since that other place shut down (qtoid).
I'll have my eggbug plush to remind me of the good times around here.
Farewell.

God damn it all...I'm really sad, frustrated, and distraught to hear these news. It's a real damn shame things never got worked out in the end. I'm gonna be sad to try to locate another place elsewhere that can feel even slightly as comfy as this place is.

Thanks, staff. For trying to craft something different, out there. For providing a place I could feel comfy and at home, relaxed enough to enjoy things at my own pace, without feeling pressured to keep up activity and engagement in order to succeed and thrive. For giving something that provided an incentive to engage meaningfully with others.

It's too bad a place like this couldn't survive, it's really too bad. But it was really fun and nice while it was present. I'm sad, I'm crying...but I'm happy that it happened at all.

Here's hoping your future travels can shine well, onwards.

Thanks, Cohost.

look, i had my issues with this site, which is part of why i mostly just lurked here instead of using it more actively, but i still wanted the best for it. this really sucks to see, actually!

hopefully everyone running it finds a future for themselves that works out for them, and everyone just, here in general gets to find themselves in a future some day where a site kind of like this one (...hopefully while learning a few lessons about what didn't quite go right here) might actually get to live again.

i know things don't seem great right now, and i wish i had better words of reassurance. but, i really do think some day something like this could work. that day just was not today. sometimes, the world isn't ready. it's happened with things before. it'll happen again.

i'd like to think we'll get to see the world ready some day.

so... see you on the other side, hopefully?

I want to chime in that this site has been amazing and the work you all did is beyond herculean.

I have grown to really enjoy my experience on CoHost. My feed was the perfect level of busy without being so active I lost things I found interesting.

I think your commitments to transparency and open communication about what is and isn't working with the site and financials is inspiring. You SHOULDN'T be the mavericks you are for this because it feels so right that it should be the STANDARD way social media sites are run. You gave us a bright, shining example of WHAT COULD BE and I legit pray that it rubs off on others that go on to hatch the next generation of eggbugs.

Thank you for everything, CoHost has genuinely felt like one of my favourite sites since I got in in the early test phase ;-;
I will deeply miss our little corner of the internet, but I understand why it has to happen.
We love you <3 Take care ^-^

Thanks for trying at all. Sorry we weren't able to keep this dream alive. Good luck on other ventures and finding work elsewhere, you're all beautiful people who deserved better. 💔

Well it was nice ride while it lasted
Really sucks that more ethically maintained platforms don't really get a chance to survive out here, and while I've never been super active on social media in general, I thoroughly appreciated what y'all had built here
This was maybe the one actually chill social media site out there and I'm real sad to see it go
Wherever it is y'all or any of us users end up I hope it ends up even a tenth as nice as here
Happy trails y'all!

I am genuinely heartbroken. But... there is a sweetness in the bitter that you're holding true to what made this site so special, through to the very end. Thank you for making cohost.

Will we have to manually request a download link for our data or will one be sent automatically for every account?

Thank you for everything you've done and for trying to hard. I didn't use cohost the way I fully wanted to, but it was so amazing finding so many different artists to follow and seeing so many different conversations. And it's clear from an overwhelming majority of the comments here that this place meant so so much to so many people. Even if this is not the way you pictured things going, that is an accomplishment to be forever proud of. I wish I could have helped in some way, but thank you.

thank you so much for all your hard work on this site; it's been a wonderful place to hang out on the internet while it's lasted

im very, very sad to see it go, but i understand. i hope you all get some time to rest and recover from the stress of the past few years

this site taught me a lot about just how much for-profit social media sites get under your skin with things as seemingly innocuous with displayed likes and follower counts, and that lesson was important for me to learn. i remain grateful for every day this site existed

before i joined cohost i thought that the making-friends-online era of my life had ended. cohost proved that to be wrong. i'm thankful for my new friends, so thanks for making the platform!

Thanks for all the work you all put in, I hope everyone on the team finds something and lands on their feet. I'm sure the dream of a better alternative social media site won't stop here.

Oh.

Fluffies haven't used the site fur over a year. Not Cohost's fault, at all. We love Cohost. So much. We just get anxious about social media, about how we interact wif others, about attention. And lose too many hours due to the anxiety and adhd.

but we always wanted to come bark. Befriend all the cool folks, write our thoughts out, share ourselves. And if we ever had any sort of income, give that to Cohost.

You folks made such a wonderful space? This is /the/ social media platform as far as we are concerned. This is everyfen we could have ever wanted. We love the CSS crimes and the longform post and how fucking inclusive this space was towards systems and love how many therians and alterhumans and cool beans are here and. is sad.

Really wish this could be turned into a text-only platform, somehow? to decrease bandwidth and server costs.

But yeah. The work was doubtlessly miserable and thankless.
But thanks, all y'all. So much.

Heartbreaking, but understandable. I love cohost and I wish it was possible to have kept the dream afloat. This is the only site that did things right and I don't know that we'll ever see its like again. From me to your team, I hope the best for all of you in your work going forward and your lives beyond that. Much love.

This isn't news I expected to receive or ever wanted to receive, but yeah.

I legitimately believe that Cohost has been an excellent platform for me, and has helped me to distance myself from the pure number brain, even on other sites.

I am going to miss this place for a very long time. Best of luck to Cohost's team members in their future endeavours.

genuinely one of the few sites i loved checking on regularly. taught me a lot about myself and other people, everyone is open and welcoming. thank you for making cohost! hope yall, staff and users, the best going forward! hope we find each other again ❤️ 🦃 🦎

Fucking hell, it was nice while it lasted ;_;7

For others sad to see it go and looking for alternatives: Itaku and Neocities are the closest I can think of. Itaku has a different look but similar approach (No algorithm) although it's more focused on images (Booru features, etc) and Neocities can be made to work very similarly. It has a higher technical hurdle (You make the site yourself), but it's easy to find premade microblogging stuff like Jekyll. I think once you've set that one up and made github actions to autoupdate it the only technical aspect of it is writing things in markdown, which we all already do anyhow. Comments are slightly trickier, but look at https://www.htmlcommentbox.com/ to fill that need. If anyone's interested I could try my hand at making a jekyll skin or whatever they were called that looks like cohost, though it's been a while and I'm a script kiddy really.

Thanks for making Cohost. Much like everyone else here in the comments, it was a breath of fresh air that helped rehsape how I view my online life and let me see things I'd never have found on other sites, from people I never would have looked for, never mind found.

I'll always cherish the scattered time I had with it even though it was mostly a place to lurk and post the occasional commission for the dopamine of seeing a post do severals - and even then those posts were seen by so many more people than if I'd posted them elsewhere.

I'm sorry to see this place go and I hope you're all able to land on your feet.

Thank you for everything you've done. At worst I see cohost as the baseline for what a social media experience should be. There was room for improvement, but it lacked the friction and extreme unpleasantness that other social media sites are subsumed in. Cohost, at its worst, was the baseline... and everything else out there is below baseline. I wish it could've continued. I have no doubts that there are young people who arrived here and had their expectations for what "online" could be changed because of you all. Maybe some of them will team up with some of you some day and something else magical can be made. Take care and good luck in all that you do 👍

It is unfortunate that Cohost wasn't sustainable, but it's very cool that you made that kind of effort to try a site like this! It's shown us what social media is capable of doing to help communities come together - and to find that better path.

Perhaps it'll happen some day, and this still tells me that it's possible in time. Thank you again for hosting such an excellent internet space!

Oh hell, I really didn't expect this place to shut down this soon. I really wanted Cohost to be the successor to Tumblr from how promising it was. Well, it was fun while it lasted. I'm definitely gonna miss this place since it was more chill compared to something like Twitter. :(

I have never taken the time to thank you for everything you did, so I want to say it before it's over: thank you. This website meant a lot to me, it was the social media site I used regularly, and I won't forget it.

thank you for everything you've built and let us have! seeing all the css crimes and writing my own inspired me to start my own blog and build other stuff on the web, so i'll always have cohost to thank for that. now it's time to build my one last css crime before the read-only kicks in >:3. thank you so much!

you built a great website and a great community here - thank you. it was a great run. a lot of people are going to have a hole left in them where cohost once lived, and not for social media addiction but for community, companionship and fun. we all had our ups and downs here but it was good. you achieved something amazing here and i hope you are endlessly proud of Cohost. so long, and thanks for all the fish.

I have memories for a lifetime, new friends, and I had a lot of fun while it lasted. I'm sorry that it came at the expense of so much for the staff; I hope you got even a fraction of what you gave, that the closure can help you get some rest, and I hope to see each of you around the internet in the future!

gahh, I'm so sorry to hear this, Cohost was honestly the perfect place.
Just the right blend of looks, behind the scenes ethics, things we were allowed to post.
thank you all so much for your incredibly hard work, I'm grateful to have been a part of it.

Will that wayback redirect work for pages? Will it retain images and stuff? I'd love to have an archived version of my comic that I could link to since it was originally formatted for this website and I went on to convince other webcomic writers to format better for the feed.

I'm moving the whole archive in the coming days, to where will be announced on Friday with my next update, and will keep both physical and digital copies of my own because this World Wide Web thing sure is fickle. Oh and it works for pages and I have an amazing sign-off post to make which will be the top post.

Will you be sending emails out to users about this announcement? Saw more than one comment on other platforms from people unsure if the news was true because they hadn't gotten emailed about it, and not everyone checks the site often enough to keep up with staff posts.

Bugger.

Thanks for giving it a shot, building somewhere decidedly not-rubbish and for a short while, letting folks find community on an internet determined to strip it all away.

I can’t imagine the stress it’s been keeping this place going but thank you.

Sad!... Definitely my favorite social media website format-wise. Despite some of its flaws, the direction was a really cozy one - in summary: clean, practical an not intrusive.

Thank you so much for your efforts. You will be remembered.

oh, and thanks, thanks, thanks a lot for making it possible for so long, to experience a site like that!
it brought me some unique, cohost-shaped kind of joy, and that's gonna be hard to forget!

I hope users will remember Cohost ten years later, and the archives will become a cherished time capsule. Even if the site was backed by a large company, being an ad-free platform refusing to sell user data is unthinkable nowadays. I'm thankful Cohost existed for as long as it could.

Thank you for all your hard work and making this the only social networking site I've ever enjoyed. Very sad to see cohost go but you should be proud of what you've achieved here - no matter how long it lasted. I wish you all the best. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

yall made a really really wonderful and special space, cohost has been the most fun ive had on the internet since being a teenager. thank you for all of your hard work and i hope you all find great places to work that treat you well afterwards <3

a question for the faq:
what will the data export look like? will the posts be formatted in a .txt way where time and date is also visible? or will it be something like a .zip file that needs a special thing to decode? asking as a complete tech noobian.
how about images?

I'm sad to see the site go, really. But, between, staff paying themselves 94k USD a year per person ( https://usesthis.com/interviews/jae.kaplan/ ) and not accepting volunteers, I saw this coming from miles away years ago. You've not really done anything to make the site sustainable, and you've not been very responsible with your financials, if I'm gonna judge by the interview promoting the site talking how you paid yourselves payed yourselves obscene salaries from your rich friend's loan, chatting about your $1200 desk chair and other $300 chair that holds your $400 controller.

I may sound harsh here, but I do it out of love for what you've created, and a severe sadness about how it turned out: I hope you don't get it in your heads that this happened because of capitalism being shit. It is shit, don't get me wrong, but this site isn't going down because it was "too good for this world". You did it to yourselves. Internalize that, and your next project will go better (and I'll be there, all too happy to put my foot in my mouth).

Part of the concept was that it would pay competitive with Big Tech. Roughly $100k/yr/person (what they should be at now, including COL raises) plus company equity is genuinely starting salary at Google.

Okay, sure... But this isn't Google. Google is a near-monopoly reigning in billions-with-a-b dollars a year. Cohost is/was a small, struggling social media which was actively leaking money. The sentiment is nice, but the simple fact is that they are not the same and it is irresponsible to treat them as such. It's that sort of thinking that put staff into the position they are in now.

My tone was apparently unclear. I apologize for that. The comment you replied to wasn't meant to be a defense of Cohost.

Google doesn't repeatedly discover that they don't have money to make the next payroll cycle, beg the Adsense clients to donate money to cover it, and not change anything about their business strategy. At some point, if you keep walking into the same wall repeatedly, it's going to fall on you.

Without y'all I would've been homeless before I had a chance to avoid it. Artist Alley did something that I never, ever could do: meet new people that liked my craft.

And of those, I've met some really cool and amazing folk that I wish doesn't disssapear into the ether of the net. I feel like I owe you @staff waaaay more than just thanks, but the eternal gratitude of a random gay animal on the internet that found, at least for a little bit, a place on this harsh world.

And, as we say here: gracias, totales.

Wow what a fucking complete waste of time, I got a code to get into here to only find out that "mega corporations rule everything, you will be stuck with this and there is and/never will be any kind of indie or little man".

im sad to hear this will be shutting down, but im glad it existed while it did. everything you guys have done on here has been great, i wish you could keep it up, but i know its not financially possible. thank you, genuinely, for all you guys have done on here.

This is only a useful gesture if you can donate insane amounts of money regularly and consistently. Exploiting the generosity of others by regularly doomposting about the site being in danger is not a sustainable business model.

Pressing F to pay respects. [salutes]. Thank you all at the ASSC for your hard work and bold actions in developing this platform. The Internet isn't what it used to be, sadly, but I deeply respect all efforts to try to rebuild the better Web, even if it may be futile. Eggbug will live on in the hearts of us who were here. <3

did anybody else know there's a secret buried page of ads where you could pay like 10 usd to have an ad there for a week? I didn't. As much as the something awful forums suck, at least they have inoffensive small banner ads, one time fee account purchases, and a patreon.

oh, and many, MANY volunteer mods and admins to maintain a healthy site culture.

It sucks to see this place go but it was kinda fumbled. Good luck to the staff, imo tbh. fwiw I mean this kindly. And at least I feel safe saying all this without fear of retribution from the staff like other sites. [cough waterfall cough]

If I am going to be real, this whole thing feels like a classic "pulling start up under the rug"

I have read stories of the .com bubble. and I suspect that I think the funder is gonna sell this place off or try to have control over this place.

thank you so much for the short time i've been here.. I may not have been active as long as most, but i've enjoyed what little time i've had in this little corner. Thank you for everything staff

Thanks for all your work, time and money - sad to see you go, but I think everyone kind of understands that there's limitted cost and time that you can just swallow. Best of luck on your future endeavors!

As understandable as your decision is, it's so disappointing that this site is coming to an end. I've really enjoyed being here, and I've used Cohost almost daily since joining more than two years ago. I'll miss it a lot.

As far as the data export goes, could you also back up who liked and reposted each of our posts? Or at least how many likes and reposts each one got? I had some Cohost posts that people really enjoyed and it would be nice to remember that in the future.

It was a pretty good site as far as social media sites go. Definitely had a unique userbase and some fun times. Even felt like a suitable place to dump some long ass thoughts, which I don't normally share online. You will be missed.

Back to not interacting with people online for me! 🫣

Thank you for creating such an excellent little social site for us to have fun on. Visiting cohost very often reminded me of the early days of the web in a positive and endearing way. I hope y’all find new gigs, get some well deserved rest, and continue to be recognized for the amazing efforts you’ve put in here.

I'd be really interested if you could archive the tag indices or however you keep track of them so that this place remains searchable even after you transfer it to internet archive. Also, how should we contact ASSC and the source code owner once the site goes read-only?

I'm happy this place existed and I'm sad it soon won't. At least there will be a data export and delete, though. How do we request one, though? Or is it automatically assumed we will all want one (honestly, that's probably a safe bet for everyone remaining)?

“just switch to the fediverse” probably isnt as simple as flipping some switches, it’d require time and money to work on making compatible — which, given the financials in this post here, staff dont really have. plus cohost would still be a very large instance of its own for people who don’t federate away, needing moderation and maintenance like any other instance. the time to become fedi-compatible wouldve been years ago when they were first developing, not 3 weeks before becoming read-only and 3 months before deleting entirely

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I wish I had the chance to be here more and contribute more, you have created one of the most beautiful spaces I've ever been part of, and I've been in all the weird online spaces since 2001, this one hurts :( <3333

I hope you all find new paths and new careers to bring you lots of happiness and lots of money and finally some rest. Thank you for creating this place, it hurts, it's gonna be tough trying to find another home where it feels like we belong...

All the love :( <3

Thank you for all y'alls hard work, cohost has been my favorite social network. I wish y'all luck in finding something new, and honestly just taking a break if you can.

Welp. I was worried this would occur. I didn't get to be here a lot but I saw some good potential in it. (I prefer these type of social platforms)

But I wish good luck to the people behind Cohost.

I still believe in your vision ASSC! I still hope for a time when we all have a place on the web to call "home" -- a place that comforts us, entertains us, socializes us, educates us, amuses us, enriches us, and allows us to be ourselves, without the fearmongering and ragebaiting algorithms so prevalent and in-your-face on most other platforms. I've enjoyed my time here. Cohost was a breath of fresh air in a polluted world. And even though this is the end, be proud of your hard work; it really meant something to a lot of people. It wasn't for nothing either! I have it on good authority that some people's lives were forever changed for the better thanks to Cohost. You did good. Wherever you all wind up next, I wish for it to allow you to continue doing good, and that it brings you fulfillment in life as well. May the soul of Eggbug live on in each of you. :eggbug: