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atomicthumbs
@atomicthumbs

fuck telegram. I'll stop using it when anyone makes another messaging app that fucking works

don't tell me to use signal, I don't feel like losing all my signal messages for a third time

(someone should fork the clients and build a new backend. the clients are the part that works better and more correctly than every single other piece of messaging software except maybe iMessage. I don't want to have to use a pile of Electron-bazed garbage to talk to my friends and hope it decides to actually alert me that I've got messages)


atomicthumbs
@atomicthumbs

like... I'll use signal if a friend is only on Signal. but mechanically we probably aren't going to talk much in part because it will take me days or weeks to remember to open the app and see that you've messaged me, because across two mobile and two desktop platforms it consistently fails to do the one thing a messenger app is supposed to do, which is tell me that someone has messaged me. whether it's by breaking the link between my phone and desktop for no reason, failing to give me notifications, or just forgetting all my shit, it doesn't matter. all three have happened. I trust its privacy but I do not trust its functionality.

I've also had similar functional problems with Matrix. the only conclusion I can draw is that nobody except fucking telegram has the ability to make a reliable messaging service with a native desktop client that has the functionality I would like to use to talk to my friends, or that nobody cares enough to do it properly


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in reply to @atomicthumbs's post:

I am consistently amazed at how good the Telegram apps all generally are - even the desktop app, while still Electron-based, is at least a competent Electron app. And they're one of the last companies around that still give even a little bit of a shit about developing separate apps for iOS and Android that actually respect what platform they're on.

Too bad it's developed by Russians a douchebag who want to pander to Nazis.

[Edits for accuracy lol]

the desktop apps are competent because they're written with Qt, not Electron, and given the fact that the founder got kicked out of VK (and left Russia) in 2014 for supporting Ukraine and the company is based in Dubai, I don't think nationality really comes into this

Oh. Well then I clearly don't know what I'm talking about lol, I could've sworn I heard some people complaining about the Telegram app being Electron. And I also clearly know nothing about Durov 🤡

Wait, what Electron desktop app?

I've had the opposite experience with the Telegram apps, all of them have unique and exciting bugs and die the death of a thousand paper cuts even though their core functionality is solid. I have wanted to leave for years but all of my friends are there and they don't care and pay for premium..?

I've been using Telegram for a long time and it's possible most of them have been fixed since I was switching apps semi-regularly to work around them, but it takes months or years for the app devs to ever fix bugs.

I think the last major ones I ran into were both PWAs having enfuriating UI bugs. One of them did not let you press the enter key on a Bluetooth keyboard to send a message, and the other would scroll up by a few screenfuls of messages every time you opened a chat. I think both of them aggressively opened the on-screen keyboard which made them a pain to use to flip through groups.

This one is fixed, but the iOS app used to store its cache files in the data directory and also lose track of them, so if you used Telegram heavily it would slowly consume your entire 16 GB of storage and you had to delete the app and wait for iOS to delete the files to fix it.

On Android when they did the UI refresh about two years ago they introduced a memory leak that would make the app stutter and delay keyboard input until it consumed too much memory and crashed. I think this one is fixed too but it was bad enough that I had to switch to a third-party app that hadn't rebased to the new version yet. It took months for that to be fixed.

in reply to @atomicthumbs's post:

I had a short stint on Kik when I first started trying to make friends on IM platforms. It ended when I switched devices and Kik deleted all of my chat history and contacts, then I switched back to my old device and it also deleted all of my chat history and contacts.

Oh wow, I totally forgot about that one. I used to run it in BlueStacks on my potato of a laptop back in high school, before I had a smartphone. Then that friend group switched over to discord and I never looked back.

Signal used to be a lot better, then about 5 years ago dive bombed with a little explanation and I switched away.

It sucks and it's going to make me trust using the app for certain things a lot less, but on the other hand I never given a cen5 to Telegram and never will. Nobody's profiting off of my being there, so I'm not in a big a rush to abandon somewhere which remains the last place I'm in contact with some people.