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ChrisStapley
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Does anybody have any recommendations for a desktop software that would allow me to organize and search images on my computer via tags? Like a booru or something but offline and just for me lol. My decade-old reference folder is becoming unusable


ChrisStapley
@ChrisStapley

The three programs I tested out were Hydrus Network, Tagspaces Lite, and Allusion. All three of them are free and don't require you to sign up or make an account for anything (my baseline prerequisites for if I will even consider a piece of software lol)

I guess I am writing straight up reviews for these programs now because this is all information I wish I had six hours ago, and maybe somebody reading this is like I was six hours ago.

Hydrus Network

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This one seems to be by and for power user booru people who want to make their own booru, primarily for local use, but optionally online as well. It's made mostly for media files, and supports a wide range of image, video, and audio files. It has a lot of different features, and as a result has an intimidating, confusing interface, absolutely arcane documentation, and most people will probably only use like 10% of its functions and menus. The Bizhawk of tag-based file organization software, if you will. (you won't)

Pros:

  • Extremely wide range of features
  • Wide variety of supported file types
  • Has various optional online functionalities (like setting up your own server and anonymously sharing your tags and files), if you want that
  • Various integrations with tumblr, twitter, and a handful of the more popular gallery sites and boorus

Cons:

  • Confusing
  • Slow to set up (It took me like two hours to import my folder of around 8,500 images)
  • Probably overkill for whatever you're trying to use it for
  • Borderline-Blender-levels of "This interface makes me want to curl up into a ball and expire"
  • Storage concern (Works by straight up duplicating all your shit into a database, doubling the amount of space your media is taking up unless you delete the original files, which you probably do not want to do)
  • Since files are imported into a database, any change made to a file or folder will not be reflected automatically in the program -- you have to import again every time you want to add a file or update an existing one

Tagspaces Lite

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This one is a more straightforward, general-purpose file tagging/organizing software, and supports any file type as far as I could tell. It's a little nicer looking and more intuitive than Hydrus, but has fewer features. Tagspaces also has a paid version with more features that it's a little too eager to annoy you about.

Pros:

  • Very simple and focused
  • Can be used to tag any file type, or even folders

Cons:

  • Thumbnails are finicky and straight up disappear sometimes
  • Random features are excluded because they really want you to upgrade to the paid version (Like for some reason it just won't generate thumbnails for some file types unless you upgrade?? Various view modes are disabled as well.)
  • Interface is somewhat clunky and cluttered with buttons you couldn't use even if you wanted to because, again, half of them are features of the paid version that they really really want you to upgrade to
  • Messes with your shit (Works by either appending tags to your filenames, or by installing a little folder with a json file in every folder its pointed at)

Allusion

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My personal favorite of the three programs I tried, probably because it was so specifically-tailored to my use-case. Allusion is specifically made for artists who want to better organize their images. This means it can't be used for anything besides images, but images was all that I wanted to manage anyway. I couldn't find a list of supported file types, but it worked fine with every image I threw at it (and I've got some weird shit in there -- animated pngs, animated webps, bmps, I think I've even got a jpg-large or two. Whatever those are.)

Pros:

  • Simple, clean, easy-to-use interface
  • Doesn't mess with or change any of your files or folders at all
  • Allows you to nest tags (for example, you could put "standing" and "sitting" tags as sub-tags under a "pose reference" tag, etc.)
  • Integrates with PureRef, if that's something you use

Cons:

  • Can only be used for image files
  • Lacking in features compared to the other two programs
  • It's an electron application, and, to my understanding, a lot of people fucking hate that for some reason


TL;DR:

Try Allusion if you just wanna tag some images.
Try Tagspaces if you wanna tag anything.
Try Hydrus if you're a power user who wants a lot of extremely-specific features.


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in reply to @ChrisStapley's post:

this seems like it might be close to what I'm looking for, if maybe a little bit overkill for my particular use case. I'll admit I was hoping to hear some insight from someone who had actually used programs like this just so I wouldn't have to download and install and test-run like 5 different programs but I suppose I should just bite the bullet and put in the work lol

Thanks for the suggestion!

in reply to @ChrisStapley's post:

wow Allusion rocks actually, love it. and yeah if id recc anything for organization with this knowledge now its this: put everything into subfolders and then use Allusion to find a specific image. Tag anything new you have. never use windows search because its evil and slow, any of these programs will be better

The funny thing is it's not just search either, any of these programs also makes a better image viewer than the built-in windows one. All three of them correctly displayed animated webps and apngs, and let you flip left and right through images in the order they're displayed, which the windows one doesn't. Allusion even shows you image properties without opening them all from a context menu individually. If it let you fullscreen them it'd be literally everything I could ever want from an image viewer

This is an awesome breakdown! I currently use Eagle because I like its browser extension as a way of quickly gathering reference + keeping source links handy, but programs that mirror the local directories seems useful for me.

I saw eagle when I was searching around and it seemed like a really good option, but I skipped on trying it out because it wasn't free (though, credit where it's due: a one-time payment of $30 seems like a very reasonable price for what it is!)

And the browser extension thing sounds handy! I believe allusion has a browser extension as well, though as far as I can tell all it does is let you add images from your browser into allusion directly with a right click. I haven't actually tried it out though

At a glance, it doesn't seem like Immich has any kind of tagging system, and is more intended as a replacement for something like google photos. Could still be useful if that's what you're after though