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lutz
@lutz

I do think an undersold and likely unintended extremely funny thing about the first Bioshock's premise is that the best capitalist minds of the era fled society and nobody fucking noticed or cared

dwoboyle
@dwoboyle

I don't remember if it is specifically stated, but I gotta imagine that they say it's the best minds and in actuality it's just financebros and people like Gabe N who think they could make themselves live forever while all the actual shadowy capitalists are just trucking on with their bullshit.

Still, it is true that if the majority of the capital class disappeared no one would notice or care. Now whether that's concerning or not, well, funny.

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lutz
@lutz

I know that's how it gets sold but I consider it hard to believe since at the time Levine said he found Rand admirable and the pivot of the narrative is when Andrew Ryan "goes back on his principles" and nationalizes a competitor's business

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spiders
@spiders

oh weird. idk that much about the plot of bioshock i just knew vaguely that its about all the ayn rand rich guys building a city underwater to do whatever they want and as it turns out "whatever they want" is to all take weird rich ppl drugs and kill and eat each other and the main villain is an evil guy named andrew ryan

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SpammyV
@SpammyV

That might well be what the author meant, but I always read it as the fig leaf coming off that Ryan had no principles. Everything about Rapture would only be upheld as long as he was in charge and at the first threat he threw his principles away rather than compete over power.

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ryusui
@ryusui

Infinite is bad enough that it makes the original game bad retroactively

it's a window into a mind that can say "minorities taking up armed revolt against an oppressive racist genocidal state are JUST AS BAD as the oppressive racist genocidal state itself"

it's easy to get caught up in the obvious "objectivism bad" read and miss the fact that the game does its level best to lionize Ryan in his last moments ("he's a FREE MAN, he dies on his OWN TERMS, unlike YOU, who are still just a PUPPET"), not to mention the fact that the Splicers are explicitly Rapture's oppressed underclass, drugged up with ADAM, turned loose against Ryan and his works, and given not a whit of sympathy whatsoever

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vectorpoem
@vectorpoem

Hi, just wanted to confirm this, as someone who worked on the game. It's an ancap-sympathetic work with a fundamentally turbocentrist world view (the worst thing you can be is too extreme in either direction!) - most evident in the third game where the white ethnostate is put on equal moral ground with the people violently resisting it

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widr
@widr

yeah if there was a mass exodus where all those sorts of people literally walked into the sea like that in real life i think we might be having a nicer time right now. i think headcanonically things are going pretty well outside

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