don't you dare tell me that thing is what you call a flapjack. rather than using the word as an alternative to pancake
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in reply to @mynotaurus's post:
They don't? American kids these days aren't learning about Paul Bunyan making flapjacks so big they could cover a whole town? I... I may be old.
UK flapjacks are apparently something more like a homemade granola bar.
It's like "biscuits" on either side of the Atlantic.
Ah. I grew up with squashed fly biscuits, which horrified most of my friends. Flapjacks as bars is new to me. They aren't in any of the books I've read. I wonder if they're new, last hundred years, or if I have just been reading the wrong books.
in reply to @mynotaurus's post:
but with treacle instead of (admittedly generally artificially-stretched) honey
not even crunchy. i zhink it is basically a granola bar. but its not its a flapjack
I'm pretty sure I've had some oat bar kinda things before that basically just seem like the same thing but not named flapjack because America
ah yes, the meat honey
(actual thing produced by vulture bees. may be gross to look up, but the bees are stingless and the honey is apparently odd but delicious?)
I mean, these do look tasty, but it's hardly our fault y'all decided to stop calling pancakes that around 1935 and named these things flapjacks instead
Before 1935 there was a similar food that wasn't a pancake (calling pancakes flap jacks started only in the 1920s in the USA and never in the UK.) but more like a sweet corn bread but shortages in Europe of cornmeal made people change to oats. There's some evidence of the corn, treacle and butter version from at least the 1800s if not earlier, in both countries.
Made them once for a larp, they're not bad but the oat version has a nicer texture.
so, everything I'm seeing says that flapjack meant either pancake or a kind of apple tart in the UK, and only really meant "pancake" in the USA and its preceding English colonies. so I may need to see where you're sourcing this from. like, the use of "flapjack" for a pancake or tart dates back to the late 1500s, not 1920. this pre-dates the earliest English colony in North America.
in fact, the reason why the split you're talking about might've happened, with a thing made of cornmeal, is that among the earliest recipes for pancakes written down in English here, in 1796, was a recipe for something called a (groaning at bad old terms here) "Indian slapjack" which was made with cornmeal instead of more familiar European grains. slapjack is just another variant on the term shape of "flapjack".
That makes more sense than what I could find. I was trying to source from multiple cookbooks sharing the recipies, and might be down to the pancake split where we don't think of some things as pancakes in the uk, that the US thinks are pancakes?
... is this where I find out, after my half-joking after actual research posting, that y'all in the UK would look at an American flapjack and go "that's too thick to be a pancake, I don't know what this is?" because they are big fluffy things with the consistency of a corn bread, typically. our spread of what we consider a pancake goes very thick to fairly thin, as long as it's not like, a crepe
oh yeah our definition of pancake does cover your style but its not the norm here, zhats a whoooole nozher layer i was hoping we wouldnt have to cover lmao
ehehe, don't worry, I wasn't remotely serious about any fightin', with the first post here especially. also I kinda want to try one of these oat things sometime, but I have no idea how to unless I find someone who can cook 'em
Also wasn't that serious both are tasty! and here's a recipe for the oat kind if you can find the ingretients/someone to cook them https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/yummy-golden-syrup-flapjacks
I'd offer to make you some but bit far away...
I'll take a look! we definitely have the oats. might not be able to use the golden syrup, may substitute honey, we have a lot of it
