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Foxtrot68
@Foxtrot68

[tapping the sign]

"degenerate" is fascist dehumanizing language can we stop using that word already please.


NireBryce
@NireBryce

the other half of this is that when you "reclaim" it, you muddy the waters instead of it being something that people can be thrown out of the bar for.

because people are using it, actively, to help dehumanize the rest of us

there's a comment to the OP saying the commenter was using it because "other queers used it against them" and i gotta wonder how little reflection is going on there when those people also probably felt they were reclaiming the use before it worked into their lexicon.

we've seen the cycle before with people adopting the active, general dog whistles used to test the waters and see who gets them, over and over since 2016 and it's pretty much never been for the best. why start now.


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in reply to @Foxtrot68's post:

I get that perspective. My perspective is that reclaiming a word isan often a good way to remove toxic connotations from a word, i cite an example if the inverse with the word "woke". The right took this work and somehow made it a dirty word, and i posit we can do the opposite.

look if you wanna insist on using fascist language for no discernible benefit that's on you. I think it's a word that's not worth reclaiming. As for your example if you think the right has corrupted the word "woke" you shouldn't take them seriously at all, plus woke doesn't have a history of being used to dehumanize others.

Personally, I've always been a little skeptical of reclaiming in a way that isn't, like, community-wide and done in a consistent and empowering way. It's why I don't personally like the f-slur being reclaimed but I'm fine with queer. Degenerate feels more like the former than the latter, but I recognized I'm not representing the whole community here.