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Now wondering whether this is a case of shared ancestry in a longer-term idiom, or of a more ephemeral catchphrase of the 90s.
(Yes, there's a horse in G Gundam which pilots a horse; don't worry about it.)
EDIT — @mojilove has an answer in the comments: it's a pre-existing idiom, origins unknown.
There's also a giant windmill Gundam in G Gundam, but that one's not piloted by a windmill, it's piloted by a Dutch person.
I didn't know this until today, but it's an idiom of unknown origin: 人の恋路を邪魔する奴は馬に蹴られて死んじまえ
It's said to have been coined in the end of the Edo period (so around the first half of the 19th century)
Aha! Thank you so much for tracking this down—or tracking it as far back as it can be tracked, at least!
oh neat! I don't think I'd heard of the dodoitsu poetic form before today; and then looking at the other examples of dodoitsu I also had to go read about Buddhist cosmology and what metaphorical beef a sex worker might have with crows (三千世界の 鴉を殺し ぬしと朝寝が してみたい). a fun way to start my sunday morning lol
ok, so! dodoitsu is a poetic/musical form consisting of 4 lines with 7, 7, 7, and 5 mora ("syllables" isn't exactly right, but close enough). the horse idiom follows this form: hito no koiji wo / jama suru yatsu wa / uma ni kerarete / shinjimae
another dodoitsu song is sanzensekai no / karasu wo koroshi / nushi to asane ga / shite mitai – "I want to kill every crow in the universe and sleep in together with you". three possible explanations I found were:
(also, the cosmology bit: the word I'm translating as "universe" is literally "three-thousand-world". this is apparently a Buddhist term, where there's a thousand of our world in the Lesser Thousand Worlds, and then a thousand of those in the Middle Thousand Worlds, and then a thousand of those in the Greater Thousand Worlds, aka the Three Thousands Worlds, which I think is the extent of the domain that a single Buddha can guide to enlightenment? The More You Know 🌠)
Oh right, I didn't realise it was a dodoitsu! Thanks for pointing that out, and for the explanation you gave about the example you found. I don't know so much about dodoitsu but I really enjoy their bluntness!
It's probably related to the other one about not getting kicked to death by a horse
