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janederscore
@janederscore

made thw mistake of checking and personally i think its pretty cool that everything i've talked about vis a vis "hey it's pretty unreasonable + pretty textbook transmisogyny to antagonize a woman on her ventposts and then act like she's the bull in the china shop for snapping and telling someone to fuck off (extra mean flavor)" has been picked apart to the basest possible strawman of "this clique of invaders just wants free reign to tell everyone to kill themselves with no consequences" . great crowd


janederscore
@janederscore

i'm genuinely pretty floored by it all truth be told. like, it takes a pretty ghoulish lack of any empathy whatsoever to sit there and armchair psychoanalyze rita, myself, and the other trans women who got ran off of tumblr And Then, Additionally, come to the conclusion that we are simply hysterical, discourse-poisoned crabs in a bucket, out of touch with reality, and have a ego-driven need to create the most toxic environments possible to fuel our supposed victim complexes.

like. it is fully unreal to act like the aggrieved party in a scenario where the conversation is predicated on a woman fleeing harassment, talking about the subject matter of that harassment in detail, being told point-blank that it isn't real, and then having a hundred people all throw their arms up in total horror and start a side-wide debate about whether or not she (or anyone else who came with her) should be allowed to stay when she isn't very nice about it.

its very easy to sidestep any of the material facts, of course, so long as you strip away literally everything that isn't "a lady said kys online at me". that makes it very easy actually to then chalk up any criticism or friction as the result of The Dregs seeping out, that tumblr's recessed backwater is leaking into the fresh water supply, and that the hole in the wall simply needs to be patched up.

consider that the catalyst of this entire scenario was her talking about the pretty dire and increasing phenomenon of tme trans people aligning themselves Against tma ones as a reaction to discussions about intercommunity misogyny, and in increasingly radical ways. the response was mostly confusion, aggression, and attempts at junior sleuthing to try to get to the "real" bottom of all this.

that's what makes it so truly comical to me that the assertion across the board has been that this is all the result of tumblr being a shitty little microcosm, that the problems there don't exist in the Real World, and certainly could never exist here. the reality is that you've had a pleasant little bubble, largely untouched by the outside world, for quite a while. when confronted with the ideas and struggles of another group of people, you were woefully unequipped to handle it, and would much rather build a narrative that this is entirely our fault - the result of pure mania and nothing more.

a few days ago i very, very vaguely touched on the idea that this website isn't ready for a conversation about what actually happened on tumblr, what the real driving force behind the last mass harassment wave was, and that people would much rather stick to the very digestible narrative of an incompetent ceo with personal beef. i locked shares on that post because i saw some somewhat concerning waves in the water - but i was hoping that, with time, my paranoia would be proven wrong. you've all been working very, very hard to prove it right.


fableware
@fableware

Read this post. Scroll back up and hit read more. Don't ignore our plight


Predstrogen
@Predstrogen
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in reply to @janederscore's post:

tme (transmisogyny exempt) and tma (transmisogyny affected) are somewhat recent terms that exist to establish one of the foundational dichotomies of transfeminist theory - the targeted nature of transmisogyny.

they replaced afab/amab in the discussion the same way those terms replaced ftm/mtf, and while i find the terminology a little clunky at times it largely gets the job done in terms of defining who is the intended subject of transmisogynist violence and who isn't.

although - and i think this is pretty important - they don't follow the same definitional line as previous terms, and as such aren't as strictly tied to birth assignment. for example, a cis man (amab) is tme.

Thanks.
Thinking about it remind me of thst old-ish comic about a cis butch woman getting misgendered in the restroom and her trans woman friend, who is passing, telling the asshole to mind their own business. I think it's pretty nice to have a term that remind people "you might not be trans but trans problem can impact you".

well, ok, so the thing is that situation would still technically be transmisogyny exempt. transmisogyny is a very specifically targeted bigotry, But it does produce a lot of what you might call "splash damage".

that splash damage is often confused for being targeted, but the thing that's important to remember is that when we say someone is "transmisogyny Exempt" we mean that they can step out of the danger. by providing their "credentials" that they aren't a transfeminine person, the bigotry (in most cases, there's some specific racialization angles to this that make things complicated and intersect with trans/misogynoir but that's a little bit out of the scope of a comment thread) will stop or refocus.

like in that dykes to watch out for comic in specific, the character was able to step outside the bigotry by having her friend vouch for her that she isn't "a man in the wrong room". if the situation were reversed, and it was the trans woman being questioned, she wouldn't have the same recourse.

in reply to @fableware's post:

I'm gonna be honest, I guess I'm following the wrong (right??) people because I have no idea what this post is in reference to beyond some vague knowledge about the trans women that were harrassed on tumblr. I don't wanna make people re-explain stuff but, what's going on?

i feel like this post + the others i've made recently have been pretty succinct and clear about things but to give you the cliffs notes version:

  • rita made a post about how she will sometimes check back in on tumblr just to see what the vibe is like after The Events and found that the usual suspects are all being completely unhinged transmisogynists (surprising neither her nor anyone else familiar with the subject)
  • some people get confused and don't quite understand the context, rita then posts a second, Dramatically More Unhinged screencapped tumblr post (that i'm not going to recount beyond "the amabs want to subjugate all afabs", which i think should paint a reasonably clear picture)
  • a bunch of people get even More confused, think this is maybe an attack on trans men (somehow), and some people start digging up old reddit drama (???) to try and sleuth some sort of explanation out of what is a pretty cut and dry situation if you like, yknow, read the things she wrote and said and believed her
  • someone decides its an awesome idea to say "lol everyone in this thread sucks i hate all of you", to which rita is very rightfully like "kys i don't give a fuck 👍"
  • everyone involved in that thread + about a dozen others all throw their hands up in shock that she would ever use the wicked three letter acronym in any context, and used that to build an entire conspiracy theory that tumblrites are coming here to Irrevocably Warp the site's culture to be just like tumblr (because, obviously, we all loved tumblr so much)
  • i, and several other people, get Pretty Fucking Pissed Off, and try to defend her. this makes a lot of people double angry and gets our inboxes and comment threads flooded with the worst faith argumentation i can basically think of
  • a specific, self-identified Original Choster decided to reply to Literally Every Single Post And Comment On Anything I Wrote For Two Days in what is pretty obviously blatant antagonism, i point it out, i tell them to block this overhead and don't engage
  • immediately after, they evade that block to Continue antagonizing me on anon, i get fed up, i very rightfully am like "kys i don't give a fuck 👍"
  • staff takes down both me and rita's posts, all the people responsible for this situation all start cheering and talking about how they should all band together to mass report anyone who's not being Held Accountable For Their Actions while also doing just a whole bunch of other completely unhinged nonsense
  • and then obviously a bunch of those people then come out of the woodwork to talk about how transmisandry is real and how the evil baddels are coming to invade cohost and etc etc. which is of course literally exactly the shit that rita and the rest of us got booted off tumblr for

so, tl;dr, people made some trans women very angry and we said mean words, which is the secret spell that causes everyone to mask off and decide trans women are the natural evil lurking at the heart of all mankind. Average Tuesday