It's a good conversation, but also it's mostly a prelude to Em and Niamh continuing to record an end segment that goes over an hour and includes Niamh's stupid newtype flash about Gundam and NANA, anime dubs, Skinamarink and the difficulty of making money (or even getting listeners) from watching and talking about anything other than the new hot film de jour, the value of a day job that doesn't take too much from you, podcasting itself, and the differences between a joint, a spliff, and a blunt.
You can listen to this episode at
https://www.abnormalmapping.com/around-the-long-fire/2023/1/25/around-the-long-fire-11-brennu-njls-saga-ch-19-45
If you aren't listening to Around the Long Fire for the back half segment at least, you are missing out.