I'm Frankie, I play TTRPGs too much. I will be reblogging and/or posting a lot of furry arte and some of that's going to be kink stuff so heads up
AKA Nerts but that's going back a while


fwankie
@fwankie

Like in its 3rd year it was bigger than every furry con, and then 3 years later it's fucking dying, 2 after that it's shut down


ADeerNamedMando
@ADeerNamedMando

Honestly, I think it was inevitable? The thing about furry cons is that they're about a community - it's why I think the term "furry fandom" is a misnomer, it's not a space that's about being fans of Furry: The Show - and being a community they have intrinsic ties that are much stronger than what "being fan of a show" can provide

To my knowledge, single-fandom conventions either rely on an immense amount of cultural cache (like Star Trek or Star Wars) or they're a much smaller thing (and I can't even think of that many single-fandom cons off the top of my head, there's Supernatural's Jus in Bello in Rome? then what?)

What I'm trying to say is, "furry convention" is i think more closely comparable to "anime convention" or "comic convention" than "fandom convention" as a frame of reference


Dex
@Dex

yeah

i volunteered at a major brony convention in europe in 2014, around the time of season 4, at the request of a friend

but by that point, we were already on the verge of stopping watching if we hadn't already - the season 5 opener was the last pair of episodes we remember watching around time of broadcast as one last shot. i don't know if we saw all of season 4 before joining in with a different friend's rewatch and exercise project last year.

and that was the last brony convention we attended.
we'd still do meetups with the friends we'd made through the cons we were at or the forum we were on
but there's little point in going to a con where you know going in there's nothing for you in the dealer's den
where very few panels are appealing
where you know there's much better opportunities to hang out with the friends who still attend, at a time where they'll be a lot less stressed.

star wars and star trek are sprawling franchises where you might not like every part of them, but there's probably something you like.
and that doesn't happen when it's a con for one incarnation of a show specifically
(my understanding is the general MLP cons are still doing OK with the audience they always had)


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in reply to @fwankie's post:

I'd argue that a lot of people just got on the hype train in the beginning, but the fandom itself isn't short-lived and is still going strong to this day. Con graphs also aren't a good way to chart the popularity of a fandom, the 2019 BronyCon got ~10k people because they couldn't fit more in the venue, and I'd guess the same is true for the furry conventions capping out at certain counts. Convention-goers are also the minority of people in both fandoms.

It's actually kind of hard to get simple data (eg google trends) for the pony fandom, because a lot of people don't use the term "brony" and just looking up "pony" or "mlp" gives a lot of misleading results.

One better proxy for fandom size might be the amount of fanworks - art, stories, music (mlp fandom especially early on has a lot more of that than furry I feel) - created in a given time frame. Shouldn't be hard to look up say on derpibooru the number of images (excluding screencaps etc) uploaded for each year or each month.

Convention attendance is a good enough measure here I think, it's constrained by the same things that furry cons and BLFC is the only one with even close to the same growth curve (also constrained by its venue)