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cathoderaydude
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edit: it's the customers, as expected, but now I have a better picture of how they can slow things down this much.

i arrive to find two people in line

car at front: sits at window for 15 literal minutes. receives single drink

car after them: sits at window for 15 literal minutes, receives single drink

me: pulls up to window, places order, receives drink within 2 minutes

what could they possibly be doing up there? there can't be a beverage that takes 15 minutes to prepare, I would think, and it can't just be "they're busy" because then I would have to sit at the window for 15 minutes at least once in a while, but this has happened well over fifty times, and not once have I ever had to wait more than 2 minutes for my order, even if there's 10 people in line and only one person working. It has to be something these other patrons are doing to slow down the process, but I can't fathom what it could be.


cathoderaydude
@cathoderaydude

may have some clarity on this. I was aware, of course, that people order drinks with 30 things in them, and I had no doubt that was stressful to prep, but I just couldn't figure out how you could fill 15 minutes doing it. I've never heard anyone actually give wall-clock figures on how long those actually take, only how irritating they are, and I couldn't figure out how the processes could add up.

by my math, fifteen minutes would require at least thirty operations at thirty seconds each. i could see how a trip through a blender or milk foaming could cost that much time, but that only accounts for a couple operations, where do the other 25 come from? those absurdly long drink tickets always seem to be mostly syrups and toppings, which should only require a couple seconds each, I would think.

@chirasul advises me, though, that those are capable of ballooning into much larger time sinks due to many things, including cross contamination control, which I had not considered. I have not worked food service but I have talked to many people who have, so I'm aware of the sheer amount of ones shift that is spent washing your hands. It didn't occur to me that that would apply to drink making as well, but of course, right?

It's also just tough to imagine that this is so consistently the cause of the problem unless pretty much everyone other than me orders these baroque things, but... it is a common complaint, so maybe that's just all there is to it: I'm the only person in seattle who just orders a mocha.


hellojed
@hellojed

I notice this phenomenon at every joint im at, from Dicks to Taco Bell to every coffee shop. I am in and out in 30 seconds because I decide what to get immediately and dont ask for alternatives or anything complex. I just think other people are subconsciously incompetent at ordering things


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in reply to @cathoderaydude's post:

And I mean, fifteen minutes? It doesn't sound that long but man, I can't figure out how one could fill all that time no matter how many ingredients or devices you're involving. After six or eight you'd have to be running out of potential tasks

in reply to @cathoderaydude's post:

I've never worked at a stand but I've got about five years of drive-thru experience at the big corporate coffee chain and nine times out of ten it is the customer doing something to make this transaction take much longer for everyone involved. Sometimes this can be benign, like just having a good conversation with whoever's on the window, but most of the time it's something like their preferred payment method not working or a last-second addition to an order at the window. The latter bit seems like it shouldn't add double-digit minutes to an order fulfillment but we're all running in routines so customers adding things at the window requires more than one person to pull themselves out of routine, fulfill the request on the fly, and then get back into routine, and I really wish it were so easy to do that as it is to type that.

And every now and then we goof up and it turns out there's not an ingredient prepared for an ordered beverage and have to also drop out of routine to get it made so we can make the drink. That one's on us, sorry!

Can you make this a post so I can share it? Was hoping someone would chime in with experience! And yeah I was 100% putting this on the customer, I just couldn't figure out what they could even be doing to slow things down this much and so consistently, but it makes sense now

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