I agree with all of this, fwiw
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case in point my timeline is currently comprised of 8 accounts that have reposted the same two memes/images, i.e. completely useless. i really do not feel like hitting "silence" on every single post
I know I had a post that just exploded so I'm here to say that I'm sorry about that (even though it was entirely beyond my control)
ya i try to only follow people who don't repost that much because it's super annoying to see the same post :/. hopefully the disable reposts from specific people and/or dedup the timeline features will be out soon.
i actually saved myself from a lot of this on twitter because tweetdeck and fenix both let you completely disable seeing retweets, at all. you have no idea how much nicer / quieter everything was.
This just makes me think about a post about 18+ content being basically like mimics where you have a 33/33/33 shot of it either being
- Porn
- Haha funni joke that doesn't really belong behind the tag
- Barney The Dino-vore
Web Pages That Suck (RIP) used to call that sort of thing "mystery meat navigation", where you'd have no idea what something actually meant until you hovered over it. think "abstract button that says GAMES when you mouse over it".
18+ posts here are the same way, but instead of the stakes being "where does this link go", it's "funny joke or straight up penis". really fun game to play
It's frustrating because, yes, anyone can stand up a forum but then it's impossible to get people to join and use it unless you have the resources or following to bring enough people there en masse to make it attractive, and then people are mad that it doesn't have All The Features, confused about how threads work and How Do I Follow People Here, where the firehose feed, etc. And that's still assuming you got it off the ground enough in the first place.
yeah it's just not feasible any more, which is kind of the lament at the end. forums take effort and energy and scrolling a timeline is a lot less cognitive load, even if you pay for it a ton later on.
I think it depends on the age range of the people you're trying to invite in. Whether forums are a new concept to them or not. Still hard to get off the ground, but people my age aren't confused about how they work typically.
Yeah I agree with mostly everything you said here. Personally, I like not knowing how much reach I'm getting with my posts, but I do understand others want to see that. Perhaps the ability to opt-out of seeing numbers would be a thing to have, or maybe even opt-in.
i've been guilty of using the tags as commentary because that's how raocow uses youtube tags and i thought it would be fun, too bad it's the only real way for discoverability so i have to tag "the cohost global feed" on everything that isn't sona art
at least with mastodon people will use specific cws but somehow the online game of broken telephone made everyone else go "cws are bad and should only be used in very specific situations"
that cw shit is the problem, though, those should be tags and not cws. nothing is as infuriating as seeing people cw everything, even the most banal shit like "hockey". that's why it gets so much grief
when i typed that i didn't realize tags still showed on collapsed posts, but those are harder to look out for and don't show in shared posts which just proves how bad the tagging system is
Yeah I agree. I moved off twitter and hoped to use this more often due to liking the circle of friends i had here, but... either they all quit using it, or the site is suppressing their posts because discoverability here is garbage and the site seems to be dying because they are stubborn to do basic ass things like a mobile app, search tool, or visible likes/numbers/stats
Hell, as a website owner that writes reviews and is very, very aggressive in pushing a video I published seven months ago, this site is just utterly useless for sharing my content. The view counts I get from here to my site stuff are almost always underneath 10. 10! Even the corpse of twitter gives me double that on a bad day, and nowadays i just guess and throw random ass tags to hope something makes it stick here and sometimes i get comments, sometimes i get likes... But I can't look at a list of likes or which of them follows me and whatnot or even a viewcount for my post and it just makes me wonder why the fuck I bother here, but i literally can't go back to twitter due to the sake of my mental health and reddit bans self promo, so I'm basically stuck in limbo here lol
Someone told me the reason this site won't open up/expand more with a mobile app and such is because they'd have to ban 18+ shit and idk man, as a fur myself I'd take that sacrifice so this site can get some semblance of life; especially when people barely tag their NSFW shit properly to begin with and it doesn't seem like there's any consistency whatsoever. Same with content warnings (and even I'm guilty as I don't know how to word certain things to be caught by people's filters? so i just gave up)
like i dunno if they want to inherit the tumblr/twitter exiles like us and have a fun community grow maybe they should do anything to let us know our posts aren't going to an empty void because we used a tag like indie games or indie dev instead of Indies and let us find people by like, searching for words in their posts. A forum would definitely have been better but oops we only have a support forum and having just checked it out after learning it even existed, it isn't really... all that useful
there's a mobile app in the sense that you can add it to your home screen, which baaaaaasically acts like an app. but they way to do that isn't immediately obvious if you aren't already familiar with how it works
Massive agree. I mean I've been critical since day one I'm not shy about that but I would love for one of these sites to prove me wrong. But it's just...even if I try to use this site in earnest, I can't find anyone to follow. Like even as a jaded asshole who just likes seeing how different platforms play out, it's a lot easier to see how they work if you follow people. And I've tried, I mean I'm on fedi I know how to dig for people to follow to get started. But the tags I'm interested in are ghost towns, I try the Global Feed or w/e and see nothing of interest, I can't see who the people I follow follow so I can't find people that way. And as you said hilariously all the guidance you get is "uh idk follow us I guess??"
But I'm in the biggest agreement that ultimately people keep trying to replicate forums on things that aren't forums that are the worst possible structure for the content in question. I run a discord for a small community and we literally set up a forum just for things where a forum is better than a discord. Like information we want to reference back later, or long ongoing things like a thread where we like pointing out video games we spot in tv/movies, where you'd never find the previous ones in a chat.
And I think to the point about forums...where Cohost falls the flattest to me is that I am on social media to socialize. I am not looking for a blog, and frankly no matter how it advertises itself Cohost is a blog site. You can't have a conversation in replies more than about 5 replies deep before it's entirely unreadable (like old reddit, about 3 letters per line). You can't DM people. When you participate in replies it's nearly impossible to find that post again, especially if you don't remember the username of the poster. It's built in a way that is absolutely hostile to socialization. And when I remember forums and IRC fondly, it's because of the conversations, making friends, etc. There's a lot of talk about this being such a nice community, such good people, or whatever, and that's dubious on any platform, but even if you take it at face value, what good are all these nice people if I can't talk to them in any meaningful way?