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JhoiraArtificer
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a friend recently asked about music I listen to, which can best be described as "all over the place, but rich and engrossing sonic textures are like candy to me". when recommending music, I tend to bias towards 'classical' just because I feel like fewer people ~my age have familiarity with the repertoire.

Some notes:

  • I put these in chronological order to kind of give a taste of how musical styles evolved (and also because it would otherwise be a jumbled mess). listen in order or jump around by what you're feeling, it's all good!
  • I recommend setting your volume to a level where you can hear the quiet parts and aren't entirely blasted away by the loud parts1, to really let the dynamic range hit like it would in a concert hall. it's a critical part of the music, let it happen to you if you can!
  • if you're a "listen while you do other things" person, I would strongly recommend making a note of ones you like and coming back to do a Dedicated Listen at some point. you'll be rewarded.
  • I recognize some of these pieces are uh. Really Long. my recommendation is to give any given piece 5-10 minutes and if you really hate it just move on... but of course my biased view is to give it at least 20% of the runtime, because symphonies and operas can change a lot past the overture or introduction.
  • I tried to listen to the whole performance of most of these. in all honesty I wanted to get this published more than I wanted to watch the entirety of the operas I've linked before doing so, so I did my best by listening to the arias I have strong opinions on and judging on that basis. if the productions do something unfortunate 1) I'm sorry, 2) please comment and let me know.
  • I am a horn ('French horn') player by training and inclination, so many of these are brass-heavy. you have been warned.

And on to the music!

they're gonna come fast and furious now. I love Romantic music don't @ me (or do, there's no @-mentions here, I won't know)

  • Robert Schumann, Konzertstück for Four Horns and Orchestra, 1849
    Horn player candy.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpfJ2ghmAsI

  • Robert Schumann, Symphony No. 3 in E♭ major ("Rhenish"), 1850
    Joy in musical form.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfxGax7g_fk

  • Richard Wagner, (Prelude to) Das Rheingold, 1869
    If we're talking about "personally significant music", the first four minutes absolutely do not fail to make me cry. Eight horns playing over a sustained ground of bassoons and contrabassoons. Truly, this sounds like the sun coming up over a river. Just close your eyes and listen.
    Just the prelude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjkjF9OfMe0
    Wagner the dude sucks real bad but I love his music. I'd honestly strongly recommend listening to the entire Ring4 Cycle. Wagner is famous for leitmotifs for a reason and he employs them well. Honestly, I think you'll start to "hear" where a lot of modern movie music stems from.
    Wagner also has a reputation for being sung by older, fatter singers. This is at least part based on truth. However, I want you all to understand that they are singing, unamplified, over a 90-odd-person orchestra. That takes pipes and a long time mastering your craft.

  • Giuseppe Verdi, Messa da Requiem, 1874
    You have, basically guaranteed, heard "Dies Irae" from this. It's worth hearing the rest.
    https://youtu.be/GFHMVeH-9GA?t=485

  • Georges Bizet, Carmen, 1875
    You've heard Toreador (side note: lmao at this staging, Carmen gets done so many ways. backup dancers, my heart). You've probably heard the Habanera. Go the rest of the way, it's worth it. Libretto with French and English.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_VkfIthWHo
    Don't want to listen to the whole thing? I'm very partial to the Act II quintet.

  • Anton Bruckner, Symphony No. 4 in E♭ major, 1874-88
    Delicious, delicious food for the horn section. Lyrical and engrossing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEssCDEAyig

  • Antonín Dvořák, Symphony No. 7 in D minor, 1885
    The first symphony I actually went and tracked down a specific out-of-print recording for, as all the ones I was finding either had bad interpretation or bad sound balance (I understand that mic placement is hard, but this symphony is not 60% strings by volume and the recording shouldn't sound like it is). this isn't that recording but I stand by it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thKh93NEEU

  • Camille Saint-Saëns, Symphony No. 3 in C minor ("Organ Symphony"), 1886
    Yes, there's organ in this one. Notable because organ as a concert instrument was relatively rare by the time this symphony was composed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GrO47WJKTI

  • Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, Scheherazade, 1888
    Justifiably famous. It's worth looking at the names of the movements, as I think this piece does a great job communicating the moods and the story.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6exoB7IW8qw

  • Richard Strauss, Tod und Verklärung (Death and Transfiguration), 1889
    I was on the fence about including this one, since it's not in my frequently-played list, but then I started trying to find a version I liked... yep, it's on the list now. Not always in the mood for it but it's lovely and evocative.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM0Y-Yly8jY

  • Gustav Mahler, Symphony No. 1, 1888, final version 1896
    Nothing quite like performing a symphony scored for 7 horns. Also, it's literally written into the score for the horn section to stand up for a portion of the last movement. I love it dearly. I got shivers and started crying while I listened to it again, and this is a piece I've listened to literally dozens of times. the next time I hear it performed live is going to ruin me
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txkonqKPZpQ

  • Gustav Mahler, Symphony No. 3 in D minor, 1896
    Huge. Long. Strap in for this one, but it's worth the ride in my opinion. At least to my ears, this sounds more "modern" than many of the pieces I've already linked. Also one where it's well worth experiencing the full dynamic range. Not a piece for listening in the car.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xplx64LVENg

  • Giacomo Puccini, La fanciulla del West (The Girl of the Golden West), 1910
    A spaghetti Western from before the spaghetti Western. Just listen to that opening! I haven't watched this whole production, but what I've seen looks and sounds decent. They're singing in Italian, it's subtitled in German, just hang out for the vibes! If you want, here's the synopsis and a link to the libretto with an English translation.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pDwwt9JOns

  • Richard Strauss, Der Rosenkavalier (The Rose-Knight), 1911
    Happy Pride, one of the main characters in this one (Octavian) is a "trouser role" (male role sung by a mezzo-soprano). I even found a good version with English subtitles for y'all! (Act 1, Act II, Act III)

  • Igor Stravinsky, Le sacre du printemps (The Rite of Spring), 1913
    One of the bassoon solos. Wild and lonely.
    This piece was... controversial... at its premiere and you can hear why that would be. Rough, "primitive", not particularly concerned with sonority. I love it. I found a video with the ballet being performed (Ballets Russes, Diaghilev choreography), but you can of course also just listen to the music if that's your preference.
    https://youtu.be/YOZmlYgYzG4?t=275

  • Gustav Holst, The Planets, 1917
    Crank the volume and swim in it. This is the recording I grew up with and I love it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB8F852qJsU&list=PLxpjNkTs16fyipiM3EczPScKc_hf4DtVp

  • Sergei Prokofiev, Suite from The Love for Three Oranges, (opera premiered 1921)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eVTR3kYdSw

  • George Gershwin, Rhapsody in Blue, 1924
    You've probably heard this in excerpted form in Fantasia. Iconic for a reason and so worth a full listen.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHdRkeEnpM

  • Dmitri Shostakovich, Symphony No. 5 in D minor, 1937
    Well worth reading the Wikipedia article on this one. An all-timer for me for sure.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AQMA0XLuAo

  • Aaron Copland, Rodeo, 1942
    Symphonic Americana. I hear echoes of Rodeo in the BotW/TotK "battle" cue.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du4DrdGp9vM

  • Dmitri Shostakovich, Symphony No. 10 in E minor, 1953
    Melancholy and beautiful. Repeatedly signed with his "DCSH" motif.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Rtd4tnFwU

  • Randall Thompson, Frostiana: Seven Country Songs, 1959
    Settings of Robert Frost's poetry to music. I am especially fond of "Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening*.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXOhRPI6UOM&list=PLiByeq5uQgPgeCf9FFuQFGT7Rb5vG0QNx

your reward for making it to the end: portrait of the author at 14
photo of me aged 14 holding a french horn and wearing a t-shirt reading "Boy Meets Grail Parsifal


  1. if we're honest I turn it up perhaps more than I should when I am particularly missing playing in an orchestra. it's a full-body experience when you're 18" from your neighbor's bell and I wouldn't have it any other way

  2. my wife and I started dating while rehearsing for a show of Pierre Beaumarchais's play The Marriage of Figaro, upon which the opera libretto is based

  3. imo you owe it to yourselves to listen to it in context, aka the whole symphony

  4. absolutely gotta call out this incredible bit of musical comedy from Siegfried where he hears a bird calling and wants to talk to it, makes a reed flute played by some beautifully atrocious clarinet, and ends up giving up and playing his horn instead. the relevant bit is about 10m long, give or take. it ends after the horn call (you'll know it)


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in reply to @JhoiraArtificer's post:

Fantastic list! Love why you picked Figaro.

Going to bookmark this post and listen to these versions over the weekend/week. I'm familiar with most of them and love hearing new good versions.

Mozart is so much fun for me to play. I had someone tell me they couldn't stand Mozart because he's just showing off and didn't understand why all these musicians, especially, liked him. and I had to tell him how much fun it is to PLAY a Mozart work well, with a group. I don't think I changed his mind, but maybe it helped.

Also shout out to the Bach cello suites- those are great to play on a trombone instead of a cello.

I extremely appreciate Mozart's mastery of the form but as someone who prefers the low register, there's comparatively little food for me 😆. Like the mastery of and careful transgressions of Classical convention are intellectually great but it's just not what I turn to. And yes! I played one of the Bach gigues in my horn back in the day.

Pastoral is a delight but simply by frequently being bundled with 5 in Beethoven collections I think it's better represented in random music collections. That said, I think the amount of Beethoven a random person knows past "the beginning of 5" and "the end of 9" is minimal at best

I got to see Mahler 1 at the Proms in London when we were there in 2016. We got seats in the choirs, behind the orchestra, so my wife could watch the conducting closely. I played horn in high school and university. I was there for the first movement.

One of the great concerts of my life. And if you're gonna recommend just one Bruckner, 4 is definitely the best/most accessible, even though if I had to pick a favourite, I like the usual suspects (7, 8, 9) but adore 2.

Although, during the pandemic I made my wife play the flute part in the flute/horn duet in the 1st movement of Bruckner 4 so we could play it together. That was satisfying.

great list! shortly after we started dating i went to see my fiance perform Scheherazade so it’s got a special place in my heart, right next to Rachmaninov’s second piano concerto (her favorite as well as my late grandmother’s)

Reading through this list unlocked a memory for me of playing in my high school band at Symphony Hall in Boston. I don't recall the entire set list we did, but one of the pieces was October but Eric Whitacre, which contains a really beautiful euphonium solo about midway through. I have no idea if there's a recording of us somewhere, but here's a recording of some other band doing a good job of it

https://youtu.be/1uansYvXBqc

well yeah, this is literally the dracula music. I think I remembered this was Bach (but I definitely couldn't have gotten more specific than mumble fugue in mumble minor)