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alyaza
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For allegedly being fans of sustainability, this variety of Degrowth™ enthusiasts love the idea of society using the most inefficient ways of achieving anything it possibly can.

But I honestly suspect that a lot of people in this broad political camp aren't even taking a serious attitude toward political change. Like, sure, a decent number are, but many that I've seen just operate on a framework of "we'll do our maximally labour-intensive, dogmatically anti-manufacturing permaculture and The Masses Will Come To Us", or "we can just Do A Prefigurativity and that's the extent of our politics", or whatever.

Which makes sense, honestly. A framework so averse to the risks in anything that people might do to improve our lives that it ends up having to dress its incredibly ascetic prescriptions in fluffy, almost kitschy pastoralism isn't going to be an easy sell — and it shouldn't be.


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From what I've read, both for and against, most of these theorists have zero experience with actual farming and don't understand the difference between growing some green onions in a pot on your balcony and growing food at scale to feed a population.

milk is really resource-intensive to produce, replacing feed production for cows with human foods would net more food than was taken away (8.3x more calories google says)

the rest of it is a lot of "let's produce less food with more work" which doesn't make any sense

To be fair, in most places there is some amount of animal products in the food system that would theoretically feed the most people for a given land use, since animals can "upconvert" biomass that humans can't eat

But current levels of animal product consumption are far in excess of that