irina

trans, gay, poly, bun

mid 20s nerd, in lesbians with my 🧡fox❤️ and 💜cat💙
fan of the video games and the board games and the computers and the architecture
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atomicthumbs
@atomicthumbs

dreamweaver is a static site generator


cathoderaydude
@cathoderaydude

Frontpage is literally a static site generator and everyone who mocked it looks like a fool now


invis
@invis
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flurry
@flurry

frontpage is how i learned html as a kid1 and some of my favorite features include:

  • estimate how long your site would take to load in various circumstances
  • auto-generate sitemaps, navbars, etc. (as described above)
  • walk you through uploading your site to hosting providers, without being dedicated to a specific hosting provider
  • not require 30KiB of javascript frameworks to accomplish this

  1. ok it wasn't the greatest teacher, and definitely some relearning was in order. but i don't think i'd have learned what i did about html/css/js as a kid without it


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in reply to @invis's post:

I fondly remember using some gui wizard from the late 90's or early 2000's that was also a static site generator. It was an entire genre of software back then and it's a shame today's tools are reserved for nerds with cli experience? :/

I think FrontPage is kind of a special case here, like Dreamweaver it's an HTML editor with various advanced site management features, rather than having static site generation as its main focus, or at least that's my perception.

Nerds actively campaigned against using tools like FrontPage, wittering on about shit like "but the code it generates is so bad!" as if the HTML formatting matters when no one is ever going to look at it directly anyway. It's like complaining you can't read an MP3 in a text editor.

However, I would say that it was a reasonable fear even if it wasn't for the right reasons. Treating HTML as a data interchange format instead of human-readable code pushes it out into a realm where it would've been much easier to capture in proprietary form only editable with expensive tools, something MS were actively trying to do.