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thinking about B2EMO and how, as a character, he embodies something that in Star Wars you rarely see, which is a droid's human-ish characteristics being treated with a degree of empathy & care.

this isn't an "and that's why Andor did it better" point (though I could say that too, frankly) but it's an interesting figment, because actually Solo (2018) tried to do this too1, but Solo was such a mess that even the interesting bits got kind of swallowed up by how goofy the entire presentation was.

But the thing is that, I think, one of the core tenets of Star Wars as a media franchise is that droid sentience/humanity is sort of a dramatic concept more than it are a diegetic concept -- droids exist and say lines and act like people because in a dramatic sense, that's helpful to the plot. I don't think anyone knows or honestly particularly cares what C-3PO does in his off-time, because for 99% of stories, C-3PO and R2 are less "characters" than they are "commentators". They're the Greek Chorus who gets to wink and nod at the action, and to explain things to the audience. Sometimes they literally do this, like in Rogue One, but sometimes they're just kind of there to be a little joke.

And that more dramatic staging of droids works so often in Star Wars because Star Wars is very often playing in the mode of high drama. But Andor wasn't, which is why I think it necessitated this... well, I wouldn't call it a "break" with that core tenet of "droids as dramatic device" as much as a "bend" of it. B2EMO gets a more humanistic portrayal because this is a more humanistic story.

Which gets me to the other thing that Andor keeps drawing out of me: where Andor pushes at "what makes Star Wars".

On the one hand, it is very much an "adding to the database" piece of media: we are learning more about Cassian Andor, we are filling in his backstory for the wikis and getting a fuller picture of his life.

On the other hand, it is staunchly uninterested in just "showing you the story", so to speak. A lot of characters and arcs are left unresolved, and probably won't be (e.g. the second arc) any time soon. It both exists as a piece of "filler media" and simultaneously decides to take a very grounded, people-first storytelling approach to being a piece-within-a-whole. It's done to great effect, in my opinion.

But with things like B2, I think there's that... intentional bending. I have no idea of the creators of the show were thinking like this, but... I'm willing to bet that there were discussions of "how far you can take a droid characterization" before it starts feeling "not like Star Wars".2

I'm impressed with what was able to be done! It's a great showcase of how a large IP like Star Wars can flex, but not break, with tonal and characterization changes between media -- while maintaining canon/continuity.

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1I don't think L3 was treated well by the script but arguably L3 really shouldn't have existed in the first place, since it raises so many questions about the nature of droid sentience that Solo (or most Star Wars media) really does not have the storytelling chops to tackle.

2this is extremely close to what i do i my actual job which is why I feel like this likely occurred


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not exactly on topic so putting this in a comment but you know what else does this sort of "tonal bend but still feels right and is still part of canon" thing but in a totally different way and IP? star trek lower decks. that show rules. breaking my star wars account mold for that one but it's really good if you like trek

Yeah! I think especially in the finale, he takes that role.

But I also think the first scene with him this season feels outside the scope of anything we've ever seen a droid do, in terms of helping Cass craft a more plausible lie and doing so subtly

Maybe there's something to be gained analyzing the progression of his character over the season and how it becomes more droid-like?

I think Tony Gilroy call him an "old dog" in an interview. He's part of the family, old and unwell but loved. And he's so sad when Maarva dies, he won't even leave the house, he gets Brasso to stay with him. Maybe most of all, there's that one shallow focus shot that's right up on his eye as people are moving her body, where we are really invited to empathize directly with his feelings in a way I don't think SW has done before.

This tracks for me (not that I've seen Andor) in that every single time I've dealt with Star Wars, and the story tries to make it about 'this is a science fiction universe with rules of science and systems' rather than 'this is a space wizard story for kids' it just opens up questions like 'why do droids feel pain?'

Yeah, I think from time to time SW dips into a lil bit of Harder Sci Fi but by and large I just... don't think it's really built for it. It doesn't work well in that mode because that's not really where the baseline work in it came from. You don't really need to know "how the Millennium Falcon works" because it is, for dramatic purposes, A Very Cool Hot Rod.

Yeah, you can go into the details of how cool the engine is or whatever, but Star Wars doesn't have Warp Speed designations. The Millennium Falcon is just "fast" and that's what matters.