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Kara @kaara7/28/2023, 5:55 PM

cohost dot org @staff

cohost dot org @staff7/28/2023, 5:55 PM

cohost patch notes vol. 68

happy friday! we held off on patch notes this week so that we could line them up against a major feature release that was just about ready to go.

Audio uploads!!!

You can now upload audio files to posts!!
- attach them the same way you would an image (clicking the paperclip icon in the toolbar or dragging and dropping)
- we support MP3, AAC, WAV, and FLAC
  - sorry OGG likers. we don’t do any transcoding for audio on the server, and it’s not supported in safari so we’re not shipping it for now.
    - colin’s a [clears throat] Vorbis liker too and he’s not thrilled about having to leave it out either, but only about 80% of users could play it, compared to 95%+ for these formats.
- file size limits are the same as for images; 10mb for cohost plus subscribers, 5mb for everyone else

This has been on our Desired Feature List since before launch, and we’re glad we finally had the time to make it happen. This is phase one of our efforts to rework and improve media attachments overall. Please let us know if you have any feedback!

Here’s what else is new this week:

Improved performance on the bookmarked tag feed
- the queries that generate this feed are, unfortunately, slow. we think there’s still some performance to gain without completely rearchitecting how feed generation works, but we’re calling this good enough for now.
improved caching for RSS/Atom/json feeds (which had shockingly slow generation)
- we’ve got more performance improvements we want to make here, but this is a good band-aid solution for now
Fixed a bug where pages that had responded to asks needed manual work to be deleted
Adjusted ordering for tag and project search
- we’re still using the number of posts a tag has been used in and the number of followers a project has to help with sorting, but we’re placing less emphasis on it now.

That’s all for this week! Unfortunately for those keeping track of the count, we don’t think next week’s patch notes are going to be very exciting; we’ve got multiple big projects in progress. Hopefully we can have something more exciting in 352 weeks.

Have a good weekend, and thanks for using cohost! :eggbug:

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liffy 💜@lifning7/28/2023, 5:57 PM

https://caniuse.com/opus (assuming you're okay with remuxing into a CAF container without a transcode)

jae @jkap7/28/2023, 5:58 PM

we're not currently but good to keep in mind

liffy 💜@lifning7/28/2023, 6:33 PM

is WAV actually supported? i get "attachments must be images"

jae @jkap7/28/2023, 6:37 PM

supposed to be! looks like we got the mimetype wrong, should be fixed in the fastfollow patch later today

TomboFry @tombofry7/28/2023, 10:45 PM

As far as I'm aware you'll also need to specify the HTML audio source type as audio/caf; codecs=opus. I did some experimenting in the past and found it also wouldn't work without this?

I love that opus works on every browser natively now except Safari. Thanks Apple, for Thinking Different™...

Keiya the Cyber-Kitty @keiya8/1/2023, 4:03 AM

there is no browser that out of the box supports both jxl and opus for some extremely incomprehensible reason

Christian Simmers @Xuelder7/28/2023, 5:59 PM

aka the soundFX dev update.

A.C.3 @AC37/28/2023, 6:00 PM

Thank you!!!!!

Kran'ts Ton @sudo-EatPant7/28/2023, 6:00 PM

Lack of MOD (or similar) support is sad but understandably not realistic to implement
(as in, i know it would be not really easy to add support for it, and idk how many people would really use it)

ida “https://deerz.one/” deerz @idadeerz7/28/2023, 6:54 PM

I WOULD ABSOLUTELY USE THIS HOLY CRAP

Lollie @Lollie7/29/2023, 3:19 AM

For what it's worth, there's good web-based MOD players out there already that could be implemented! webaudio-mod-player is one I've been most impressed with, it seems rock solid.

Example, courtesy of mod.haxor.fi: dizzy - banana split

Lollie @Lollie7/29/2023, 6:13 AM

Fuck it, feature request time, I want this

Daisy @dsy7/28/2023, 6:00 PM

thanks for making cohost!!!! :eggbug: (and for the bookmarked tags feed fixes; i am definitely noticing the performance increase on my slower bookmarked feeds!!)

Kit @kitkat7/28/2023, 6:02 PM

I guess supporting an open, unencumbered, royalty-free audio format is too much to ask of Apple

eevee @lexyeevee7/28/2023, 11:32 PM

they invested a lot in AAC so now it needs to be everyone else's problem

@lexi7/28/2023, 6:06 PM

two feature requests:

midi
cohost plus plus to upload my 300mb FLAC files

Smoke and Honey @smokeandhoney7/28/2023, 7:44 PM

haha, my first instinct was to post canyon.mid

nini @filenine7/28/2023, 9:28 PM

300mb FLAC files

Assuming CD-quality 16/44.1 audio... you've got entire albums laying around ready to be uploaded?

@lexi7/28/2023, 11:16 PM

you've got entire albums laying around ready to be uploaded?

i have a small library (a couple of terrabytes) of FLACs lying around on a hard drive =)

Assuming CD-quality 16/44.1 audio

wrong. i was talking about 24/32bit 384kbps files. i dont have a lot of them, but those few that i have are chonky bois

nini @filenine7/29/2023, 1:05 AM

Hi-Res Audio! Seen a couple of those around.

Never downloaded them, though, because my computer's low on storage and I can't afford any more...

@lexi7/29/2023, 1:07 AM

no storage? no problem!

gdrive with 4.5PB on it

Μάρκος @postgarf7/29/2023, 1:14 AM

holy mcfuck

@lexi7/29/2023, 1:26 AM

also, that's not even the best screenshot i have. i have one with 20PB but its not on my pc rn lol

nini @filenine7/29/2023, 2:10 AM

Now we're talking!

(Side note: I wonder if I can get my hands on one of those? Probably need to start an 'organisation' and get a subscription. Or join one, I suppose.)

@pornography7/28/2023, 6:07 PM

There's a pretty egregious outstanding issue with anonymous asks, where they put a number badge on your inbox but simply can't be viewed. It's honestly shocking to me that there isn't more outcry, and that this hasn't been fixed for so long. Someone asked me something well over two weeks ago and I still don't know what it is!!!

Can we please get a fix for this?

https://help.antisoftware.club/support/discussions/topics/62000185068?page=1

ida “https://deerz.one/” deerz @idadeerz7/28/2023, 7:03 PM

i've had this issue since asks were launched and it still hasn't been fixed! there's at least one other support thread about it too. logged out asks just do not show up whatsoever. super annoying because the notifications for them won't go away, but they don't show up in my inbox!!

Azure @AzureLazuline7/28/2023, 7:42 PM

i get that that issue is frustrating, but posting demands like this in the patch notes comments section doesn't get it closer to being done, it just makes the staff more stressed out. They read every report in the support forums, so they'll definitely do it as soon as they can figure out the exact cause! It looks like it's only hitting a small number of users considering how few upvotes that gets, so it's probably a lot more complicated than it seems.

@pornography7/29/2023, 6:23 AM

I understand where you're coming from, but I don't really agree. For one, posting here already got a really nice outcome — a staff member confirmed that they're working on it, which they hadn't done in the support forum.

Second, a lot more users read these posts than read the support forum. By letting people know that there's a place to vote and comment, staff can get a clearer picture of how many people this affects.

Kara @kaara7/28/2023, 8:07 PM

this is indeed on our radar. We know its pretty annoying and we'll get it fixed when we can.

@pornography7/28/2023, 11:06 PM

Thank you!

@MeaghansHouse7/28/2023, 10:53 PM

Yeah I had this issue too, I really hope it gets fixed xox

Z-A @Z-A7/28/2023, 6:20 PM

looking forward to the next vol.

Frik 🏳️‍🌈🎗️@frik7/28/2023, 6:22 PM

What are you guys even planning on doing in 7 years??

legitimate dolphin @rngDolphins7/28/2023, 6:28 PM

we don’t do any transcoding

well there's your problem right there

@nutty-country7/28/2023, 7:07 PM

There is always room for more trans coding.

Princess Sylvysprit @sylvysprit7/28/2023, 6:36 PM

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
AS A COMPOSER, THANK YOU SO MUCH
AAAAAAAAAAA
YES!!!!!

Remi Erin Autor the remeranAuthor @remeranAuthor7/28/2023, 6:36 PM

Is there a way to put an audio thing directly in the middle of the post? EG: Some markdown, or HTML Support? Obviously I could go get the answer myself by testing it myself but I'm just wondering about audio CSS Crimes over here.

Sleeping Kitty @bluekat7/28/2023, 6:42 PM

can we expect to see volume control in the audio embed in the future?

🌊@wave7/28/2023, 6:43 PM

Really, really great feature. Thank you. Sharing audio is so fun!

I hate to also piggyback a complaint/request on here, but I do find the omission of a volume control a drawback to the current implementation, and wonder if adding one might be feasibile in future. Such a bother when websites make me adjust system- or app-level volume so as not to get blasted (then adjust it back when finished).

AtomD @AtomD7/28/2023, 6:48 PM

This has been a very delightful surprise. Thank you very much!

Zakami Tesro @zakamitesro7/28/2023, 6:58 PM

THANK YOU STAFF

adam le doux @ldx7/28/2023, 7:27 PM

this is such a cool feature!

while y’all are expanding media attachment formats I want to plug my long-shot feature request: standalone HTML files as a media upload

I want to post bitsy games on cohost! >:D

https://help.antisoftware.club/support/discussions/topics/62000185236

keep up the good work y’all! :eggbug-smile-hearts:

Rena @RenaKunisaki7/28/2023, 7:42 PM

Just decode it in the browser 🤪

Izvy Raspberry @Izvy7/28/2023, 7:50 PM

Thank you for making cohost! is the floating audio player Colin posted about in the feature request form up next?

Izvy Raspberry @Izvy7/28/2023, 7:52 PM

thank you for making cohost! The ask update has cured my depression, cleared my skin, and watered my crops :eggbug-smile-hearts:

Edit: The first post came back with an error and i didnt see it on refresh so thats why two comments

Azure @AzureLazuline7/28/2023, 8:01 PM

thank you so much for this, it's amazing for musicians! And thank you for cohost!

Renpona @Renpona7/28/2023, 8:14 PM

banging my silverware on the table and chanting "MIDI, MIDI, MIDI"

Decker @axemonger7/28/2023, 8:36 PM

Not what I expected at all, very cool feature

mi-com @mi-com7/28/2023, 8:51 PM

Thank you for this. This was the feature I was waiting for to subscribe to Plus!.

mi-com @mi-com7/29/2023, 2:49 AM

Oh no wait I have feedback. I realize that it would not actually prevent anyone from downloading the file, but it would be nice if there were the option to disable the download button. It might additionally offer some level of plausible deniability should any legal challenges arise.

threnody @threnody7/28/2023, 8:52 PM

My Vorbis!

helleano)))r @listeninggarden7/28/2023, 9:10 PM

so glad to see audio posting finally supported! a little bit of feedback to offer:

the upload limit feels a little too restrictive without resorting to some very crunchy bitrates, and highly limits what someone can do with wav and flac. i think 10mb for free users should be the minimum, as i prefer to target v0 mp3 quality when sharing things and at best i can offer either very small clips or very crunchy clips, neither of which is the most fun

secondly, i'll add in my want for a built-in volume slider to the player. i tend to wear headphones a lot and prefer not to have to clumsily adjust my browser's volume if something is coming in a little hotter than expected

Caro @caro7/28/2023, 9:30 PM

omg cohost mashup time

Patrick "DoctorSockrates" Camarador @DoctorSockrates7/28/2023, 10:10 PM

Welp, time to summon all the Soundclowners. This is fantastic.
I'm gonna assume someone's already put in a feature request for a volume slider.

Bezier @ComplexBezier7/28/2023, 11:50 PM

woooooooooooo!

Jack @MrNuclearMonster7/29/2023, 12:18 AM

:eggbug:

!! MEGAMIND MCFUCK !!@MoidDoesArt7/29/2023, 12:38 AM

we did it. sickos can finally fill the feed with terrible audio shitposts.

it's me. i'm sickos.

Lollie @Lollie7/29/2023, 3:05 AM

One big request for audio posts: Handle external audio file URLs so that they auto-embed with cohost's fancy new audio player 🙏

jack @JackDotJS7/29/2023, 4:12 AM

please please please please please please please please add volume control. i cannot emphasize enough how much it makes my blood boil to still see audio players without volume control in 2023.

Gay Eminem on 9/11 @DecayWTF7/29/2023, 7:55 AM

This owns this owns this owns and I promise not to make a ton of problems for y'all by uploading every flac I'm listening to but still this owns this owns

amphyᵛᶦ @amphy7/29/2023, 1:26 PM

late to the party here but: this rules!! thank you 💙
I noticed there's a download button in the corner of the audio player, is that only visible to me? if not, is there a way to disable it? thanks!!

armaina @armaina7/29/2023, 7:35 PM

Confirming for you that other users can see the download so it's def something that is available to the whole public.

amphyᵛᶦ @amphy7/29/2023, 8:43 PM

thanks! that's good to know & I'd definitely like an option to toggle that per post

Fluffies🐾 & ☉∇ ΘΔ Ⓥ @Fluffies7/30/2023, 8:34 AM

Alas, it is pretty easy to get around that if you know a bit about how browsers work, so be sure to only upload things that you are comfortable with someone out there maybe downloading them.