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If you're a nerd, you already know this, but if you're not, let me, someone who spent about 4 months working at a Metro by T-Mobile store, tell you how exactly they're ripping you off.

Firstly, the sticker price next to the model phones is, in fact, the actual price of the phone. There may be a small activation fee, like $10 or something, but besides that, if a phone says it's $249.99, it actually is $249.99.

When an associate at a carrier store tells you the prices listed are corporate white lies, the truth is they are lying to you. Carrier store associates make commission, but not on the phones. They only make commission on the phone's accessories. They are not motivated to sell you a more expensive phone, they are motivated to sell you any phone, and the accessories to go with it.

The problem is that in the Amazon age, no normal everyday person would actually buy their accessories from a carrier store unless they were in a hurry. Carrier stores will charge $35 for a cheap clear plastic case with a decal that will rub off in a month. The same case can be found on Amazon for $5 with free shipping. The carrier store got that case from a wholesaler for $1.52.

So the store associates know they can't really sell you the accessories at their actual prices. So they lie. Flat-out.

"I can get you this $250 phone for about $310. And, lucky you, it comes with a case of your choice and a screen protector!" You're not lucky, you're being played. You're paying $250 for the phone and $60 for a case and screen protector.

We were actively encouraged at my store to do this. We had a cheat sheet of inflated prices for each phone hidden in a desk so we could coordinate prices between salespeople and it had to be hidden covertly when corporate would come around to check on us. We were purposely paid shit wages (9.50/hr) to push us to scam people for our own benefit. We were instructed never to use the word "free" when describing the "bundled" accessories, because that somehow made the obvious bullshitting and lying not bullshitting and lying anymore. We were told never to print receipts for the transactions because if we did, the customer would realize they'd been ripped off and get pissed off (I saw this happen exactly once and after my coworker refunded them the extra money, she actually tried to complain to me about how rude the customers had been...).

I was actually fired from my store because I didn't rip people off enough, and in one case even sold a phone to a woman at cost with no accessories because she came into my store practically sobbing that she was a single mother who had broken her phone, had little money, and desperately needed a phone immediately to be able to do, y'know, anything. For the crime of not ripping off a desperate single mother, I was fired. I just wasn't scummy enough, wasn't enough of a horrible person to work in a carrier store.

So yeah. Take it from me. Don't ever buy a phone from a carrier store. Or, if you absolutely must, take what I wrote here in there, tell them to their face that you know what they're trying to do, and that you want to pay sticker price for the phone. I guarantee, the associate will clam up and do as you say, because they're not used to people knowing about their scam.


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Wow, never had that experience. I have deliberately bought accessories knowing they’re the highest margin stuff in the store before, but I’ve never even seen an attempt to trick someone into it. They’ll be like “okay I gotta do this paperwork, you should go look at the cases” or even pick a couple out to place next to the phone enticingly. I don’t consider that too bad lol

Those would be stores in high-trust communities I suppose, or with high-trust clientele. Metro is a cheap, pre-paid MVNO of T-Mobile, and one that doesn't require any form of ID to make an account with. When we weren't lying to you about the prices of phones, we were getting people coming in to pay their phone bills in cash, often because they didn't have bank accounts, often paying with 100's their unscrupulous employers had slipped them under the table, which on more than one occasion turned out to be counterfeit; or dealing with people running their own scams of trying to make a new account and buy a new phone every other month or sending phones in for insurance claims way too often, etc.

None of our regular clientele would willingly spend money they didn't believe they had to; the type of customer to scoff at the notion of a $35 case, then walk out the door, drop their phone on the pavement, and storm back in demanding a replacement. Which was well-known by our employers, and was a part of the motivation to make us become scam artists.

You’re right, most of my recent experience is main-brand T-Mobile stores, though not exactly the classiest ones. I did go to a Boost last year for my SO’s new phone and the poor clerk had to bring her kid into work and he was running around the store the whole time. Maybe she was just too tired to care tbh, she pointed out the case but didn’t care too much when we opted not to. Of course Boost pricing is always weird, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an extra fee somewhere that time that I didn’t catch.

I think so! but I don't think I looked too closely haha

If I was going to be a stickler I probably wouldn't be supporting "local business", if you can even call these that, but they're jobs on the ground regardless.

I've seen this behavior in corporate carrier stores.

Though, up until a few years ago, some T-mobile "corporate" stores were not corporate at all — T-mobile "partnered" with a company to provide corporately branded stores in markets they didn't have proper locations in, up until the Sprint buyout completed, and all those Sprint stores in the same areas became corporate stores. I saw all the usual locations in my town fold after that. Stores that were there since I was a small child.

It was kinda like the whole "Target Starbucks" thing, which is a nightmare in itself, where it's neither corporate nor franchisee, but some hellish inbetween.

I just remember that when I got the iPhone 11 Pro at verizon I asked if it was compatible with the apple pencil and the dude said yes with no hesitation (it wasn't) and when I went to open the box for the phone he had put it in there in a way that it immediately fell out of the box and I had to catch it mid air, terrifying experience

They'll getcha.

Honestly if a carrier has a really good deal on a phone (only reason to ever buy direct from a carrier) you can often get the same deal through their website without having to go to a store. I'd recommend it, if possible, there's no one trying to rip you off on the corporate website.

I'll mention this to my family, they're the ones I know who go the carrier stores and are most likely to get ripped off I think. I try to get used phones when I can. The one I have now is a used Galaxy A7 that I got in 2019 and it's honestly my favorite most reliable phone I've ever had that I only got because my other phone was pickpocketed off of me.