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spiders
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a psa to ui developers about scrollbars:

PLEASE stop doing this thing where you hide the scroll bar when it's not being used, or make it invisible, or super thin and difficult to see. this post explains why. as an example of this...

vogon
@vogon

this is a great post that I 100% agree with, and also as someone with Brain Problems I find myself looking at the scroll bar on web pages a lot for reassurance about how far through a particular long read I am, and hidden-by-default scroll bars are infuriating to me

DecayWTF
@DecayWTF

I am constantly horrified at how many modern "design principles" are directly contrary to usability. The magic disappearing scroll bar is one; hiding everything behind a hamburger menu so doing anything at all requires one more click then it used to is another. JS taking over interactions and layout on websites so screen readers and keyboard shortcuts don't work. Exposing only a subset of configuration levers on the normal config page/dialog and then hiding everything else in what amounts to gussied-up regedit. Fuck.

TalenLee
@TalenLee

And this is intentional, of course; it's presented as a cool aesthetic, but so is the way that a casino is full of cool stuff to look at and no windows.

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spiders
@spiders

if you put developers in charge of a city they would be like "it's long since time that we removed these ugly and unsightly tactile pavers on our curb cuts, to better pursue the minimalist aesthetic which is the future of good design. and we should stop having walk signals announce out loud when it's safe to walk- good design should speak for itself!"

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NireBryce
@NireBryce

you almost certainly already have tried, but if you middle click a non-link in a page that scrolls, at least on windows and Linux scroll will follow the mouse, and might enable easier bindings than the scrollbar even if i think the scrollbar also shouldn't be hidden

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spiders
@spiders

this doesn't really work for me because it scrolls very fast and can be erotic erratic with eye tracking

talon has a similar mode where the scroll follows your gaze at a much more reasonable pace, which we also sometimes use, but it's situational and a lot of the time just clicking the scroll bar is better because its less vocal strain

edit: correction of extremely funny dictographic error

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ring
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feeling extremely less like I'm out of it seeing other people talk about this. I'm not a designer but I have needed to write out a lot of detailed instructions for things that were designed to be Intuitively Understood without Getting In The Users' Way. (Now being modified years later to account for users' stubborn refusal to develop mind reading powers or appreciate that we pulled off something ambitious that's just sort of frustrating to actually use.)

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