kylelabriola

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Hello! I'm an artist, writer, and game developer. I work for @7thBeatGames on "A Dance of Fire and Ice" and "Rhythm Doctor."

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I run @IndieGamesofCohost where I share screenshots and spotlights of indie games. I also interview devs here on Cohost.


Iro
@Iro

After a meteoric rise in manga spheres, Frieren's anime adaptation began airing this season. It's animated by Madhouse and directed by the Bocchi the Rock! director. They gave it the whole-ass Oshi no Ko treatment with a quad-episode premiere and an OP by YOASOBI, in case it wasn't clear this was meant to be An Event for anime watchers.

For those not in the know, Frieren follows its eponymous character - an elf mage who's part of the Hero's adventuring party (a typical Hero, Fighter, Mage, Priest lineup) - and the story opens with them returning home (implicitly, to the Starting Town) after defeating the Demon Lord offscreen. To her three compatriots, this decade-long journey was the adventure of a lifetime, the period that defined their entire existences. But Frieren is an elf, with a lifespan measured in millennia; for her, it was Tuesday.

This disconnect is the series' emotional crux. Frieren promises to watch the once-every-50-years meteor shower with her party in the same way you or I might agree to grab lunch this weekend. Time is measured in years since the defeat of the Demon Lord, and then, in how many years since the Hero Himmel passed from old age. She cries at his funeral, but barely understands why, since from her perspective they might as well have been the cool strangers you hung out with at a weekend convention.

The story follows Frieren retracing that old quest with different companions, considering her steps with a new lens fundamentally changed from her experiences, slight as they were.

It would have been so easy to make this isekai, and I'm so glad it isn't.

I've publicly complained about isekai before, but to those not in the know: it's the "sent to another world" genre, which has a very long history in various mediums but over the past decade has attached to Japanese media like a leech. There are multiple reasons for this - some worse than others - but it is kind of uniquely suited to attach to the fantasy genre in the context of anime/manga.

In the west, when you think about fantasy, you're probably thinking of Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones. Or, if you play games, possibly something like Dungeons & Dragons, which is basically Lord of the Rings anyway. In Japan, the prevailing conception of western-"style" fantasy is the Dragon Quest series.

Now, like, sure, we could get into the weeds of how DQ was informed by Wizardry which was informed by D&D which was informed by LOTR, but by this point the bough has sort of taken a life of its own. The tropes of Dragon Quest 3 are codified: the all-rounder Hero and their party of mechanically-rigid Job Classes journeying to defeat the Demon Lord, who will offer the Hero half the world should they abandon their journey and join forces, et cetera.

The pertinent point is that Dragon Quest is a video game. If there's a Hero, you know what kind of stat spread they have. You can reasonably assume what Skills they have (a slate of strong physical attacks, Lightning magic, and low-to-mid level healing/support). The party members are more notable for their Job Class (Fighter, Priest, Mage) than for any sort of personality or character.

Isekai is so huge in the fantasy genre because isekai loves video games. Video games, especially RPGs, create a sense of agency. The player is put in a place of power because they have the knowledge of the artifice and therefore can manipulate it. Even in examples where the protagonist isn't trapped inside a literal video game, it's pretty damn likely you're going to see game-like trappings. Stat windows, skill trees, equipment, numbers. It's almost a given, because this branch of fantasy is rooted in Dragon Quest and its fundamental game-ness. Who needs real character development when you can point to how the number is going up?

And even if there aren't necessarily these sorts of quantified elements in an isekai anime, it's common to create a similar of power and agency in other ways. Time travel is a standard version: you can throw the protagonist back before a cataclysm they work to avert with somehow-perfectly-recalled foreknowledge, or throw them into the future where their presumed unremarkable abilities are now considered Ancient and Powerful. Take your pick of the myriad ways in which a protagonist is The Worst (But Actually The Best!) so they can show how cool they are. Et cetera.

If it wasn't clear, I don't particularly hold isekai in high regard. Maybe you disagree. That's fine.

In the context of this currently being the dominant form of anime fantasy, Frieren and its sense of odd stoicism is like a breath of fresh air. It avoids most of the more annoying pitfalls simply by virtue of not being isekai.

Frieren is only a hair away from being an insufferable isekai protagonist. She's literally a powerful wizard with thousands of years of knowledge in the body of a pretty anime teen; she acts like a spoiled brat one minute and as a wise, all-knowing sage the next. She is fully capable of, as is so commonly espoused in the genre, leading a slow life where she just does what she wants.

But the series isn't about that. It's still deeply informed by Dragon Quest and its descendants, but it understands that the artifice functions as a convenient backdrop to examine something more specific. Frieren's elven agelessness isn't just to show off how she's Cool and Strong (though admittedly it is occasionally that) but a vector to communicate the transience and nostalgia of things we may have taken for granted.

I don't mind a "generic fantasy setting" or even generic archetypical characters - I mean hell, I ain't gonna pretend the "Ageless Elf" isn't an incredibly old trope out here - but I want a story to at least try to do something with them, give me something to grasp onto as I'm forced to drown under the waves of extruded isekai product. Frieren does, and it doesn't need stat windows to do it.


kylelabriola
@kylelabriola

Every time I finish a chapter of Frieren or, now, an episode of Frieren, I turn to my partner and say "imagine if we had more of this instead of 200 isekai anime...."

Thanks to one-weird-trick that lets you sell a bunch of light novels and presumably some financial wizardry meant to prevent investors from gaining creative control over individual anime series, we now live in a world of dozens and dozens of greenlit isekai anime that I feel like are way too similar. Like, tbh, some of these comedic premises could probably be combined into the same show, right?

For now, Frieren and Witch Hat Atelier are like the golden standard for anime fantasy for me. And I'm definitely gonna try out Delicious in Dungeon when the anime starts.

If anyone else has anime/manga reccs in a similar vein, let me know!


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in reply to @Iro's post:

in reply to @kylelabriola's post:

I think Iro's analysis of fantasy in anime/manga mostly coming from video games is spot on on why it's hard to come across anything that isn't isekai nowadays. But I feel if you expand the view of what counts as fantasy we still get quite a lot of interesting stuff like Ranking of Kings and Made in Abyss; it's just not very medieval, high-fantasy flavored.

I do have some random recommendations from all over the years:
Isekai Restaurant - It is an isekai, but because the focus is on a restaurant rather than being a power fantasy, I find it super enjoyable (also, I love food). It's about a modern world restaurant that can be accessed through several different places in a fantasy world, and watching the different people from that world interact inside the restaurant.

Sleepy Princess in the Demon Castle - Super cute comedy anime set in a fantasy world. Young princess gets kidnapped by demons but all she wants to do is sleep, so she goes on daily quests do improve her sleep quality while creating mayhem for the demons.

Wandering Witch: The Journey of Elaina - This one is only half a recommendation, I don't personally like it but a lot of people do. Young super powerful witch goes on a journey to know the different places and cultures of the world. I feel this is exactly what Iro described Frieren would be if it was a generic isekai, except it's not an isekai, just tropey.

Maoyuu Maou Yuusha - Very-Dragon Quest-esque hero gets summoned by the Demon Lord to try to solve the issues in their kingdom. A lot of politics and world building despite the appearances. It's from 10 years ago and I haven't rewatched to see how it holds up, but I remember enjoying it. Also funny that it's technically an isekai since the hero gets summoned from another plane, but his world is also fantasy

None of this would be in the same level as Frieren or Dungeon Meshi, but those are the best of their genre in the past 20 years so it's hard to compare lol

I kinda hold Maoyu responsible as the proto-isekai what with every character literally just being named their character class and them introducing crop rotation and gunpowder to a medieval world and whatnot (funnily enough, Log Horizon by the same creator is one of the better isekai examples because it's actually about the intersection of bizarre game mechanics and a fantasy world's society being disrupted by thousands of gamers being dropped in)

as for Made in Abyss I think it actually is quite game-y in its setup but it doesn't really bother me because the series doesn't really shove it into your face (and there are plenty of other things about it to get bothered by)

Also while I have no real problems with Isekai Restaurant I definitely prefer Izakaya Nobu which has a greater focus on the community aspect of being a local bar

The crop rotation thing specifically is one of my pet peeves in isekai anime so I def didn't remember Maoyuu had that haha. I had no idea Log Horizon was by the same author tho!

I wasn't a huge fan of Isekai Izakaya when I watched it but I might have to give it another try, maybe grab the manga instead

Yeah... I normally like this kind of stuff (the live action episodes with the voice actors for Lets Make a Mug Too were a lot more enjoyable to me than the actual anime) but it was so out of nowhere in this case that I left stunned. If they at least had made the sets look like a medieval kitchen...