Bits about transfeminine people all being programmers, programming socks, etc, are weird and bear no real relationship to reality, create unrealistic expectations and betray a fundamentally myopic and highly class-inflected understanding of queerness and gender politics but they also make cishet computer-touching dudes absolutely lose their tiny fucking minds so it's impossible to say if they're bad or not
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Okay, but, I literally started learning CSS and Python just to understand all the gender crimes on here. But yeah, stereotyping sucks.
I mean joking aside it seems harmful and exclusionary at best. But also seeing the worst people in the world get Actually Very Mad and freak the fuck out about someone posting a picture of pink knee socks is extremely fucking funny.
I think a lot of it is just a meme that’s 10 years out of date — before 2014 or so the social parts of the internet hadn’t truly hit the mainstream and you had to be a bit of a nerd to be on sites like digg or reddit — that is to say, corners of the internet you might run into someone talking frankly about being trans in a way that gets you across that “you can do that? / I can do that?” barrier.
So I think there was an era where if you were being trans on the internet you’d run into a lot of trans people on the internet who were programmers because the Very Online were much more likely to be programmers and much more likely to run into the information they needed. Plus, I suspect neurodivergents are more likely to come out.
Ten years down the line and there’s a lot more mainstream awareness of being trans and spending a lot of time on social media which contains strangers and new people is normal for everyone.
I can’t say I much like the stripey socks and blahaj memes either because it seems like the new problem is in-denial trans people are seeing shitposting terminally online trans women and not at all relating to it.
I can’t say I much like the stripey socks and blahaj memes either because it seems like the new problem is in-denial trans people are seeing shitposting terminally online trans women and not at all relating to it.
yeah, this is a large part of my story. my main social media used to be reddit and the parts where i hung out tended to have a significant transfem population, but the style of posting made me feel "i do have Gender Questions but i'm too different to these folks to actually be one of them"
and that probably set me back a few years, unfortunately 😕
that's sort of just an evergreen thing -- there will always be something that feels like one is too different, because, well, there's that whole gulf of transition
i've only encountered the stereotype as a joke but i'm sure there are circles who are uncritically all about it and are in a class bubble, that seems to happen with any meme
The only one that applies to be is that yes, I do want a giant shark to keep. But like with doing other people's taxes, you couldn't pay me enough to do giant amounts of code.
(Says the person who wants to make a video game)
when you only meet trans people on the computer every one you meet is a trans person on the computer
I can confirm that it's been a topic I'm seeing increasingly discussed on programming subreddits, and it indeed does make people angry.
Interestingly, it's got the same "all furries are tech wizards who literally run the Internet" vibe going for it, and there's a similar discussion as to just how problematic of a stereotype this is.
What I’m seeing is that a common pathway for white transfem people to come out involves being adjacent to this culture, possibly assisted by neurodivergence. Of course as a neurodivergent AMAB into computers who has so far stayed just on the cis side of enby… this is really weird? Because that’s definitely not how I learned about all of this, I was dating an art school kid who came out as transmasc. I continued not to meet any transfem programmers at all…except for one who was friends with my SO lol
Anyway my actual point being that this is huge amounts of erasure for the black trans community which is a rich and vibrant one, and has surprisingly little overlap with our circles. Honestly if I was the right kind of academic I’d definitely be trying to learn about these two trans communities and seeing what cultural differences they have now, before they start to influence each other more.
Anyway now I kinda want programming socks…
i think it has to do with trans women being more into it relative to all women, and that slight difference gets portrayed as a big difference
jokes about all programmers being trans: epic, troll the nerds
jokes about all transpeople being programmers: bleh what r u doin
listen, not all of us can code. some of us are tech writers