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It is absolute bullshit that standards organizations cough ISO/IEC, ANSI, IEEE, et. al, cough make it absolute heck if not impossible for individuals to get access to standards, even if they are working on open source stuff.

I know you can buy the standards, but not all of us can afford to drop 100USD for a 14 page PDF which doesn't even have all the information we need. It's extremely prohibitive and outright hostile to individuals and small companies that want to follow standards.

And the fact these standards organizations don't have any interest in trying to help and proliferate the standards for wider adoption is frankly absurd.

This is why i'm a proponent for truly open standards, keeping them locked behind a restrictive paywall is franky, malicious.

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Yeah,,, ISO/IEC, ANSI, IEEE all either charge a membership fee (several thousand dollars on a recurring basis) or like, 100+ for their standards, it's BS and should be criminal.

There are some freely available ones, but it's very rarely the ones your looking for.

Also it's hilarious to see the restrictions ISO places on their standards.

https://www.iso.org/files/live/sites/isoorg/files/store/en/PUB100206.pdf, like, you can't even same them on external hard drives, or w/e, lol

Don’t distribute standards online // That includes [...] saving them on hard drives [...]

lmao what. Boutta have broken the law because I had an ISO standard open in a browser tab on Windows and then the OS hibernated, flushing RAM onto my HDD.

This is so stupid lol. "should be criminal" sounds right to me

I would actually get some use out of anything under ANSI Z359. Also ASTM D312 and D4434. That last one is something I’ve been curious about for a while regarding a slap fight between a couple of competing roofing manufacturers.

so glad IETF and WHATWG don't work like this... I even got them to explicitly CC0 some of the machine-readable spec contents. maybe they understand better than other orgs that folks are just gonna sail the seas if you put up a paywall

Always a good time to buy a standard and discover its just a pile of references to like twelve other standards also available for purchase. No joke it’s often easier to just read implementation code, which is how weird bugs and folkloric standards happen.