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It seems weird, right? But I have good reasons for this. The first one being, a lot of said retrotech people are focused on the macs and the IBM clones and other consumer devices and microcomputers, and that's fine! I understand why, but I personally don't get the appeal, which is not anyone's fault.

Personally, I'm more of a minicomputer / big-iron type girl, I like machines that take up large chunks of space and are monsters to power and run, along with their peripherals ( I'm particularly fond of 9-track tape :3 ), so that puts me apart from a huge chunk of the community at large in the first place. The second being, I don't mind fixing/changing things, unless i'm expected to work on a museum quality specimen, I have no qualms with replacing chunks of the thing that break as needed with modern replacements. I don't feel the need to keep things "100% original" like, yeah, I'm not going to go and add RGB to a PDP-11 or anything, but first and foremost want to use the things, if that means making a new board for something, i'm not going to try to match the components so it's period correct, i'm going to make sure it's functionally equivalent, and possibly better using the modern tools and chips we have now.

I see a large chunk of the community focusing on keeping things as they are, historically and period accurate, and that's fine, if that's what makes them happy, they can do it, I won't complain. But I don't find much in common with any of them for that reason, there is a very small common ground we have, and that's "retro-tech" but the type and style are vastly different, so I can't help but feel out of place, but, in the end, that's okay, we are all in a hobby because we enjoy it and want to share it with others, and because my interests in it are fairly arcane, I get to share the wonders with others who are interested but don't know about some of this stuff, and that's a good thing.


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Maybe, I can't see inside the minds of these people ( nor do I think I want to, tbh ), so maybe it's some nostalgia for the past, but I honestly couldn't tell. If that's how they all wish to partake in the hobby, then they can do so, there is no right or wrong way. But I do still feel estranged due to my more, eclectic, interests and practices.

i only buy things to use them but i'm only willing to replace things up to a certain point, even optical drive emulators kinda worry me with how you have to toss out the original mechanism and that's a part that's going to go bad earlier

That's understandable, personally i'm fine with going "ship of theseus" on something, so long as it maintains its original function/purpose.

But it's not a bad thing to want to be hesitant with stuff like that! We all can enjoy this hobby how we wish to, which is one of the best parts of it.

Thanks, and yeah, it just kinda puts me a little at odds with a large chunk of the others who partake in the hobby as well, but that's not a bad thing, it's just how I like to express my interest in the hobby, and I don't judge them for the way they do it themselves, but it does feel kinda lonely as there are not many people who share the same interest and general feel towards it as I do, but that's okay!

I actually really love when there are things like 3d printed parts, modern PCBs as expansion cards in old Apple cases, mod chips, etc. I like to see old hardware working and I can appreciate a fully stock museum piece, but I also want to see people leverage the tools and skills that they have available to them to build cool stuff.

I kinda do feel this. While my interests do lean a bit towards home computers (mostly for practical reasons; i'd love to have some minicomputers, but i'm an apartment dweller!) I seem to have slightly different interests, at least sometimes. I like to have a better experience than you reasonably could have had back in the day! This feels especially proper with home computers, where even back in the day the actual typical experience was to customize them.

I mean, there's no sense in purity for an Apple II, the whole machine is outright built for you to build on. And besides, it's fun to make an old machine really sing!

I very much agree with all this. I do like portable devices, netbooks, laptops, etc as well, because they're often weird in their own special ways. I also very much agree with using things. Seeing an item on a shelf does little for living people. Seeing something doing even a silly little task really is vivacious. To me, preserving originality is a form of documentation, and keeping something running is potent communication about life in the past.

I'm right there with you on the retro stuff. a lot of the behavior you talk about develops in the community over speculation and the whole buy-and-sell aspect of it. I'm very much not interested in any of that, I want to document, preserve and potentially restore homebrew production of things. new gravis sound cards with a lattice fpga playing wavetables. new sound blasters with a good emulator on a pi pico. new disks and tapes and magnetic media made with 21st-century technologies. the original is a template, to reverse-engineer off of; not a market chip to sell to wide-eyed nostalgians with deep pockets and no sense.