lexyeevee

troublesome fox girl

hello i like to make video games and stuff and also have a good time on the computer. look @ my pinned for some of the video games and things. sometimes i am horny on @squishfox



feel like i've glimpsed something unpleasant underpinning cohost culture and it's kind of spoiled the magic. this was my attempt to get back into longform posting and so far i would not say it's working out. mostly i'm getting flashbacks to five years ago when i was struggling to remember what the appeal was in the first place.


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I think that's just inherent to any social media. That make me sad, I used to believe this wasn't the case. I wish there was a place where people could be more calm and give the benefit of the doubt to people, but I think while system does influence behaviour a lot, this is just something that is inherent to any social media site. I wish I could have more mature discussion with strangers, I genuinely like talking to strangers, but unfortunately, that's just how it is on the web.

I'm trying not to let perfect be the enemy of good on this website. Everything is fine 95-99% of the time and that's a vastly better track record than anything else I've used where strangers are allowed to interact with me by default.

I didn't take part in the recent discussions, but reading it and witnessing some of the aftermath has sorta undermined some of the magic of the site for me as well. I knew things like that would happen eventually even here, and I still like the site for its welcoming of longer posts at the end of the day, but it leaves me with this vague gut feeling that something happened here that I assumed wouldn't happen here.

I've always been worried, meow.
As soon as people landed here they were already always talking about how cool it was how nobody was having discourse at the same time as talking shit about how mastodon people punish people who don't CW sensitive topics, and there wasn't a single moment of self reflection and I knew it wasn't going to end well.

I think cohost is unprepared for when it meets an actual ideological divide that can't be resolved by people just figuring out it was a misunderstanding all along, but hopefully I am wrong.

Sometimes you can't just clarify a TOS, or investigate and figure something out. Sometimes people will simply be enemies, and they will stick around. What then?

yeah this site is definitely on track for the first real test of the staff's content moderation abilities once people realize there's multiple legitimately opposed ways to be vaguely leftish that other people really do believe in

it was extremely unnerving to witness multiple people simply decide i am deliberately trying to rile them up (and, apparently, succeeding) because they thought i said something they didn't believe themselves

like their first thought wasn't even "maybe i misunderstood" but "aha! some kind of fake person"

Most people don't really know how to engage with something that makes them uncomfortable (especially if they've had their brains melted by Twitter where most everyone really is just zero-effort trolling), if you don't know the speaker personally much easier to just make up a dumb lying guy you can dismiss easily.

Those dudes don't ever really go away on a public platform, some places people with nothing interesting to say end up getting ignored, some places they win through just exhausting everyone willing to make an effort and anything but the blandest one-liners gets shouted down as a Highly Illegal attempt at Trolling. Sometimes both happen on different sub-communities of the same platform. Right now the Cohost zeitgeist seems to me to be trying pretty hard to keep that kind of thing to a dull roar, but it's a pretty mixed bag of a community with few established social conventions in common and nobody really moderating things so who knows where it'll end up.

I think you're making fun of me, hehe. I meant cohost as a community, and meant people being actively antagonistic against each other, not just having opposite ideas, creating their own little communities who keep bickering with each other forever. (among other things, tbh I don't really feel like talking about it too much, having a terrible day/week)

I'm not! It's something I've seen in communities with a much more defined ideology and mission statement, both on- and offline. The former follows the latter when it's something people really give a shit about, unless someone's actively working to keep everyone working together on a mutual interest

sorry, I should've kept wiff my first cooler minded read thaf u had my back, meowf!

I was like pretty sure u were agreeing wiff me but one bad argument later I come back to this tab and think "waif, was thaf sarcasm?" I guess having a bad day really does warp your mind, hehe. Buf thanks for confirming anyway. *gives u a meow*

I'd hope that people will continue to make thoughtful posts until that becomes more of a convention here, rather than leaving yet more of the internet to be overrun with heckin epic memes and 5 TERRIBLE RUMORS that will SHOCK you!!!, but recognize that that can be a lot of effort for very little apparent reward. Doing pretty much anything well increasingly feels like that, the alternative just seems incredibly grim.

putting a whole bunch of people who are often significantly traumatized and sometimes also self‐righteous in a bad way into one box can be volatile. unfortunately, given enough people in a space, volatility is unavoidable in my experience. if you pour enough different chemicals into the same vat it will eventually catch fire.

i think one thing people specifically don’t react well to here is seeing other people get real mad about something (at least for things which aren’t universally condemned here), particularly when their initial response to seeing anger doesn’t let them absorb the context. i am fairly mellow in public, so i have been doing well here for the most part. but one time when i let my frustration and distaste with something show here, someone immediately tried to pick a fight with me. (i ignored them.)

i still consider this better than the alternative public access spaces that freely permit gross bigotry, or toxic communities where everyone’s just flaming mad about everything all the time. but there’s never any “magic” on the internet, just leftist communities with various controls to limit interactions from the public (notification/CW/tag filters, post silencing, comment/share locking, private pages…), which are the closest you get in my experience.

i'm a little surprised it's as simple as that — i'm very used to getting real mad about something and just like... i guess it feels like using it as target practice, shooting at an empty coke can. it's supposed to be a dumb and largely harmless activity and i like to play it up so we can all have a good chuckle about it. (obviously on twitter it got a little out of hand.) but i guess if people see you holding a gun and don't recognize that you think you're at a firing range, well