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lori @lori2/13/2024, 11:52 PM

i've been aware of osteophage's pillowfort for a while now (several months at least) because at some point they linked my mastodon thread on there and i am really fuckin baffled by people's reactions to it

like did you all read any of it

calling these "callout posts" is...extremely reaching. they're the most benign things i've seen, every post is basically "here's a post on cohost, and here's a post replying to that, and then this post was a reply to that", and a lot of it is just trying to untangle the massive web of vagueposting that goes on here. i've seen way, way, way more vile shit from cohost users aimed at other cohost users than anything on this person's blog where they just talk about dynamics on social networks sometimes. someone compared it to tmz, like...have you ever read tmz, have you seen this blog, because i have to assume you haven't done one of the two

at no point have i seen this person do callouts or even like...be all that negative towards people. the only negativity seems to be thoughts about the actual social dynamics, the negativity is towards vagueposting as a way of conflict resolution, not towards any particular cohost user.

idk man!!! maybe some of y'all need to actually go back and read their posts before getting scared about what other people are saying about it. if this was kiwifarms shit y'all would be aware by now, the reason nobody even noticed this person was making these posts is because it's just a bunch of really basic fact reporting and then a handful of pillowfort users making some comments. if you're confused as to why a drama seeker would care about such non-dramatic events in cohost history, maybe consider that they were never seeking drama to begin with. they've posted about AO3 comments, they've posted about how tumblr discourages conversation in its design, they've posted threads about twitter and dreamwidth. none of this is trying to scrape up drama, it's just a person who finds this shit fascinating, and as someone else who finds this shit fascinating i find it so baffling that someone can't understand why it could be even if you aren't in it for the drama.

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lori @lori2/13/2024, 11:53 PM

i think the ONLY time i have seen them post anything even vaguely, vaguely, vaguely resembling criticizing a specific user was them talking about bigg's post about how cohost is totally doing fine financially guys, i'm friends with them so i'd know, and it was mostly about how laughable that is, and bigg has more directly incited harassment against people on here and said shitty things about them than this random person on pillowfort none of you knew about until two seconds ago

lori @lori2/14/2024, 12:05 AM

and i feel like i'm vagueposting at this point to some degree too but cohost has gotten to where i feel like if i link or reply to shit i'm just gonna have people calling that callouts or w/e too so

(and if you post something and the person you replied to blocks you that post is just absolutely gone into the ether to you and i like to be able to see what i posted on a website)

Ezra @ezra2/14/2024, 1:14 AM

I found their posts very useful to understand stuff that's been vagueposted about ad nauseum!

lori @lori2/14/2024, 1:26 AM

And I felt like that was the point! "It's extremely hard to figure out what anyone is talking about here so I tried to figure it out and thought I'd share" makes total sense to me. And while people are upset it was done off-site, I guarantee they wouldn't take kindly to someone doing it here either for the same reasons.

Coyote @osteophage2/14/2024, 3:00 AM

Thanks, Lori.

I remember back when you were getting this treatment too. Someone found a Mastodon thread of yours and posted it to Cohost, and people started misinterpreting it, vagueblogging about it, and strawmanning what you were saying, all while talking about you like some kind of Website Foreigner. That was pretty dismaying to watch. In the bigger scheme of things, I think it's been part of a consistent pattern of a kind of... factionalism, I suppose, where websites are treated like nationalities, rather than as tools.

Regardless of who it's directed at, I think there's something worth examining about that.

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Coyote @osteophage2/14/2024, 4:14 PM

I thought that was a particularly strange choice of comparison for a site which already conditionally allows posting images telling people to kill themselves.

I mean, if that's the fear, then given the precedent, I would expect to see more urgency in figuring out what exactly the criteria are for "in a documentary capacity."