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The free TV company Telly has started shipping its ad-supported TVs to its first wave of customers. Telly first opened its waitlist in May and plans on shipping 500,000 free TVs to customers by the end of 2023 — and “millions more” in 2024.

Unlike most TVs, beneath Telly’s 55-inch 4K display is a smaller screen separated from the main display by a soundbar. That thinner display is dedicated to showing advertisements, which is the point of its business model.

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To receive the free TV, Telly users must submit detailed demographic info (such as age, gender and address), as well as purchasing behaviors, brand preferences and viewing habits, and they must agree to let their data be used for serving targeted ads. Telly’s TVs include a sensor that detects how many people are in front of the screen at any given moment.

So what’s the catch? Telly users must agree to several conditions under the company’s terms of service. If someone doesn’t abide by the TOS, Telly reserves the right to demand the TV be shipped back — otherwise, it will charge up to $1,000 to the credit card associated with a given account.

Among the Telly TV requirements: You must “use the product as the primary television in your household”; you must keep the TV connected to the internet at all times; and you are not allowed to use any ad-blocking software. In addition, users may not make “physical modifications to the product or attach peripheral devices to the product not expressly approved by Telly,” the company says in its terms of service. “Any attempt to open the product’s enclosure will be deemed an unauthorized modification.”

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atomicthumbs
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To spy on living rooms, the TV has an array of four Knowles SiSonic KSM2 MEMS microphones, a big camera module (with a motorized shutter that covers the camera, at least) run by its own SoC with a deep learning accelerator block, and a fucking TI IWR6843 60GHz 3D object detection radar

edit: their privacy policy says the camera and its imagery are used only for video chat and other user-chosen apps, and that they don't store, look at, or analyze imagery from it. putting actual spy cameras in people's living rooms is likely to get legislators and attorneys general breathing down your neck real fast. but they're advertising guys: they'd do it if we let them. and it still has a radar, which they claim is a "motion sensor like in smart thermostats" but which their FCC filing describes as for "3D object detection"



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we seriously need to come together as a society to ban advertising. it is a scourge that must be wiped from the face of the earth. unfortunately that will probably not happen because it makes a lot of people a lot of money. but i can dream

ZDNET's key takeaways

  • Telly promises a free TV in return for your data and some advertisements.
  • The ads weren't nearly as intrusive as I thought they would be, and the audio and video quality were excellent.
  • A built-in camera not only adds useful features but also offers some fun, new ways to interact.

bluuugggghhhhhh. saving this article in case i ever need to induce vomiting.

I feel like my life has been made worse by knowing this exists. I guess the best thing to do is to make sure nobody I know gets 500 ft within this THING or this goddamned company. Every single person who significantly helped fund this atrocity should lose their houses/businesses for this shit (they can rent I guess) or have their lives made a living hell at least until this company ceases to exist.

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sorry, misspoke, the previous generation is the mmwave stuff that's in most of the flagship phones for doing things like AR and rangefinding etc (and probably data collection but I've got no data on that), so [object detection] being in TVs one gen later kinda makes sense (in a dark kind of way)

Some time after the Kinect came out, there was a patent going around for using a similar device with a TV to track the number of viewers (I think there was some pay-per-view scheme attached?). This seems to follow that line, except with ads

they got a lot cheaper some years ago i think, after several places stared making chips that do most of the work. i think the original application was "advanced driver assistance systems" (ADAS) in cars

It's all a bit confused isn't it, the branding says "British commonwealth" but I'm not sure anything could possibly be more American than a television that surveils your house with radar so corporations can sue you if you're not watching your prescribed number of commercials

all this stuff to conceal it and they still made it so the ad screen is covered by your stacks of DVD cases. Modern business, what a marvel. (its also fascinating how the ads are like a trojan horse but it's not a gift, focus on ads takes eyes away from Spy)

mmm. can I pay $1,000 to outright own one with no ads served for the purposes of jailbreaking it? that is some very cool hardware that these cops and madison avenue committees are foisting onto the public

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