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tjc
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“For [Edith] Sheffer, this taints not only the diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome but also, potentially, the broader autism spectrum diagnosis that Asperger did so much to shape. Based on these writings, it clearly had far less to do with medical science than with fascist thought: the Nazis required submission to a supremacist groupthink in order to build the Aryan race. Asperger’s claim that autistic children were pathological because they lacked the capacity for Gemüt was less a medical diagnosis than a highly ideological one about what should constitute normal behavior: he was diagnosing them, quite literally, with a deficit of fascism.” — Naomi Klein, Doppelganger (2023), p. 212

I knew Asperger was a Nazi, but the broader framing of autism — by the people who invented the diagnosis — as a failure to be fascist enough hadn’t occurred to me before.

(And I hope no one reads this as “as autistic people, we’re immune to fascism :)))” - it has more to do with preserving your own moral views even under social pressure, which fascists can also do while living in a society that hasn’t yet gone fully fascist.)


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Every social group has the seeds of fascism in it, because in every group you have to leave something behind in order to fit in… so yes, socialization is never all that far from adjustment to fascism. Or at least, never as far from it as we’d like it to be. Because every group has groupthink - without it, is it really a group?

This tag is meant for autistic people talking about experiencing autism, and conversations that result from that. Neurotypicals are usually welcome as long as they're centering autistic experiences. Be curious, not dismissive, generally. This is mostly meant to avoid Autism Speaks's "we must find a cure for autism!" or discussions about living with autistic people that generally never bother checking with the person in question, who often comes off as an especially intrusive piece of furniture or something. Without a small amount of boundary setting those types often overrun our discussion, of course not so much here I wouldn't think, that was more of a Twitter problem.

Hmm, I guess I've usually seen it used that way, but I was using it here to get the attention of people who would post under that tag (note for anyone reading who's not sure: I'm autistic), not as much to signal who can comment. I agree with what @modulusshift said below, though!

I was always under the impression that Asperger's diagnosis (at the time) was about separating the "useful" autists from the ones who should be loaded onto the next train. Still, it's never surprising to find that once again the nazis were yet even more horrible than imagined through some other new research you've just heard of.