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hello coboast, could yall please share what u do for work, how its going for you, and how you got there? im very much overwhelmed by the prospect of graduating and am quite nervous about what happens next. i really badly want career advice but i dont know where to start, where to look, and have no idea what questions to even ask. everything just feels misty and hopeful and scary. please please please help a girl out and comment/dm me!

theres a bunch of lives i can imagine myself having in a few years, but i just dont know if these are any bit realistic. i dont know how id reach them, i dont know if id even enjoy them, and i dont know if they are even real—i might be making up careers that dont exist. but here are a couple dreams i have. hopefully they give some sort of vague idea of what i want to do with my life.

i could go get my mfa in creative writing and get paid to write for a few years. after finishing that, ill probably just be onto the next thing, whatever that is.

i could go to grad school and study like, postcolonial literature in the philippines. i hate academia but would be honored to work on a project like this.

i could go grab an internship with the sea grant and find a "coastal career," whatever that is. i could be a fisherwoman in seattle or something, or perhaps work on policy. i deeply enjoy physical labor, and i love boats. im also deeply invested in food equity and anything that gives me perspective on how our food systems operate.

i could become a librarian and find myself having a genuine impact on my community, both in terms of information/education and in spreading public resources and connections to anyone who needs them. i love the idea of working with people from all different ages and walks of life.

i could join the foreign service and like... do... whatever it is they do. to be honest i was really excited about this idea because i like the idea of being all over the world, learning a bunch of languages, and finding myself in the middle of dire moments all around the world and being able to rewrite what us foreign policy looks like in small yet meaningful, human ways. or if im asked to stomp a revolution ill just whistleblow and try not to get assassinated.

i could teach. i saw a teaching opportunity in alaska, actually, which sounds extremely interesting.


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For myself, I am a supervisor at a third party quality control company in the automotive sector. I both lead teams that sort and inspect various parts of automobiles, as well as do the work myself. I have a degree in computer networking, but by the time I graduated, I found that I really didn't want to work in that field.... Got to blame the late 2000s tech bubble for that. I much prefer working in this field anyways.

I'm a marine scientist working for a state-funded lab. I'm actually out on a fishing boat right now wrapping up a 10(ish)-day scallop survey with the rest of the lab. Been doing marine science stuff since I left undergrad, and got my MS before I got this job. I've only been in fisheries since 2023 but if you got marine science questions I can do my best to answer them. Hell, I'm even trans if you've got questions about that.

It was less of a pivot and more realizing this was an option that was actually open to me. I knew I wanted to be a marine biologist since I was a kid, but I thought you had to have way more experience to break into it first. I got my bachelor's degree in biology, plus a minor in public policy & management (both for personal interest and bc I thought it might be some handy cross-training to show off on the resume). My advisor told me about REUs, which are an NSF-funded program for summer research internships, targetting undergrad students and pairing them up with a research lab at participating institutions. I looked up several, applied to the ones that interested me, and the marine science one took me in. Getting to see what it was like made me determined to keep going because I fucking loved it, and it helped me qualify for other jobs afterward. I landed myself in shellfish research because my first job out of undergrad was at an oyster lab on the Delaware Bay, and I liked it well enough to keep going with that particular niche.

Rest of the answer will be in another comment bc weather rough and screens hard rn

Tyty, just got back to land a few hours ago and I'm ready to start heading home in the morning

My life outside my job is pretty decent, but it's not quite ideal - the way my lab works, we have 2 months in the summer where everything revolves around the fieldwork season and I kind of have to put my life on pause because our sea-going schedule is so liable to change due to weather or boat logistics. Most marine science labs operate on a seasonal flux this way, where summer is the most intense period for work, and then everything dies down after. It's part of the package of studying natural phenomena - you will have to operate on their schedule, not yours. (Or, in the case of fishery surveys, the schedule of federal fishery management deadlines.)

I had an easier time with this when I was doing coastal work, and our fieldwork trips were mostly one-day affairs, instead of the 2 week trips I do now. I could get muddy and get in the water but still be home the same day. Doing open ocean stuff was when this work-life balance started shifting in ways that were harder to manage. Picking your study organism or specialty will sign you up for a specific type of working situation, so that's where seeing what the work is like will be important when it comes to picking what you want to do. There are also ways in which boat life is hard - I often say it's the worst and best thing I ever do, and I am fully sincere about both parts. I can talk about it in more detail if you come find me on discord. Just let me know or send me your contact and I'll get in touch.

But yeah. I try to keep busy with hobbies and doing fun stuff on the weekends, and treasure the uninterrupted times I'm home and can enjoy time with my partner and cat. My salary is part of what enables this, and the benefits of being a state employee are pretty nice. I wish I were doing nearshore work again instead of this, but I'm in a pretty decent spot right now

i am here in the states. both my parents are filipino and we've visited like three times now. its funny bc theres a chance that we'll all flee back to the philippines given how us politics r going lmao.

Well... things aren't much better here haha. But I can understand why you'd want to move. It's just that career options here are much more limited - only a few paths actually offer a high standard of living.

Returning to your original question, I work as a data analytics manager for a prominent e-wallet app. You might have even used it to send money back home. It's a tech job but I dont have a background in Technology. I'm a humanities major and I shifted to IT since the money's there. I managed to get in through a combination of friends putting in a good word, self study, and good timing - they were desperate for people and I fit the bill.

no for sure lol... the idea with coming back is like if we're gonna have to struggle we might as well do it at home.

but also the prospect definitely scares me because being so close to parents and family will make the whole being trans thing a bit more difficult :/

thanks for sharing! how long have you been in data analytics?

Six years - I resigned from my job and I'm almost done with the 60 day notice period (30 days and up is the norm here, I think in America it's "pack up your stuff" the day you resign). I left mostly because of career stagnation and burnout. I'm not learning anything new in my role and the company has no real intention of upgrading our team, skills, or tools. This is a death sentence if you're in IT since employers keep looking for new skills. Gotta have that mercenary mindset.

The other side is burnout- all in all, I've given a lot to my work and haven't gotten much back in return. I make very good money by the low standards of the Philippines but after conversing with colleagues that left, I found out I'm underpaid. I need to get that bag since I'm settling down soon and need to pay for the wedding, house, car, etc.

I don't have another job lined up, although I am actively interviewing. In the meantime, I plan to just rest and catch up on everything I'm behind on due to work.

here in the US its normally said like "giving your two weeks", in that you give 2 weeks notice before quitting. thats really unfortunate, but i really hope interviewing goes really well and id love to hear back.

I'm a control systems engineer in the metals industry, at least on paper -- I actually mostly do a bunch of hazy IT crap supporting the plant systems that the official IT department can't or won't do. I'm in the states -- the money is great, the hours are awful, and the entire field is overwhelmingly old, male, and kinda dickish. I got a degree in math & CS as well as engineering but I kinda looked at the tech sector and figured that manufacturing/heavy industry was a more stable sector to work in. The primary way we make money is operating huge, complex, town-sized pieces of machinery to do extremely complicated physical chemistry, 50 tons at a time, and getting it right the first time, but all the institutional knowledge walked out the door when management purged the internal engineering departments in favor of outsourcing in the early 2000s, so we desperately need subject librarians and techno-archeologists but management doesn't (yet?) realize that, so the demand is completely unfulfilled.

White-collar jobs can be shitty, but generally beat the pants off anything where your work productivity is tied to your ability to do manual labor. A 40-hour office workweek is at least 50% slacking off while looking busy -- it's not ideal but it's a big improvement over having to actually work 40 hours.

ty so much for the words! im gonna be thinking a lot about that subject librarian idea...
the old, male, and dickish reality to a lot of fields w money is definitely something im deeply afraid of--ill see my brother in cs try to just not lose their mind and its just terrifying. how have u gone about navigating it?

It's uninspiring, but honestly I just haven't come out as more than vaguely fruity at work, which is a convenient way to use the HR department's diversity policy as a shield without inviting any specific discrimination. Otherwise, just be polite and treat them like reasonable guys to their face (because they will always see themselves as reasonable guys) while gently playing them against each other. I use phrases like "just trying to get up to speed", "I'm not an expert", and "I'll defer to X" a lot -- just feed their overgrown egos and aim them at each other and it's not a big deal.

The other advice I'd give is always quadruple your time estimates for any task -- it's good to be a hero for getting things done ahead of schedule, and absolutely awful to be behind schedule, so make sure the schedule makes it easy to do good.

so fun!! could u share a bit about how u got to that position and what u see in the future from here?

also sorry about the post a few months ago that indirectly shat on anyone working on "popular" art and video game studios. ive since deleted that bc i dont really agree w it anymore--i reposted someone elses words that kinda got to some thoughts i was wanting to say but couldnt quite put the thoughts together and it ended up w me voicing an opinion that can be pretty hurtful. anyway i really appreciate when i get to have a comment from u!

its ok, nbd
i got into the industry through modding, this is the second studio i worked at, the first one did outsource tools work for the studio im currently at, but when my old studio moved off the project i was on i got myself poached by the place im at now: id managed to wrangle myself into doing some gameplay stuff on the project and met a bunch of the team there in doing so, so when i applied people wanted me there
in the future idk, part of me wants to do indie but it's a bit scary, my current position is pretty great, maybe a little money would be nicer but my pay is pretty great esp for the uk and the work i do so cant complain lol
i think atm im more focused on me and figuring myself out than games industry stuff, me a year ago would've been hyperfocused on getting more creative control and working towards going indie but now? having the time and flexibility to hang out with people and figure myself out and be social and kiss girls and stuff (i rly wasnt very social a year ago as much as i did want to be at the time lol) so im less bothered about my future rn as i used to be rly
i think if i found a team and a game i was rly passionate about making id probably reconsider though, and i do wanna do some solo stuff in my own time at some point which might lead somewhere

congrats! i love that for you! and no need to rush into anything. by far the strongest advantage anyone could have in basically any field is not having to rush. keep it up and keep kissing girls!

So I work as a software engineer (contractor) for a small government lab (usgs). Some of my work is fairly straightforward 'develop software to manage a database of user and automated input' stuff, designed to run a web service for users at the lab to store information about the hardware they work with, and a number of tools I'm the primary maintainer of that are more focused on specific math and science applications -- parsing specific kinds of data files, signal processing, etc. that's a bit more tied to my background in physics and mathematics. Which is probably where actually getting into how I got into this would help explain things.

I was in college studying physics during the 2008 collapse. I'm class of 2011 and was studying physics and was neither particularly apt for it in the end (geometry and I don't always get along) nor enjoying it terribly, and found myself more interested in the computer side of things. Both in computational modeling and just programming in general. A lot of the math was related (algorithmic analysis came quite easily from my physics background) but overall easier, and the ability to use a computer to solve problems always beats trying to do stuff by hand.

Between the tenuous job market, a lack of confidence in the skills I developed in my major, and wanting to actually do more computer stuff, I decided to move on to grad school. I picked a location with a good grad program in computer science close to where my family was now, and picked up a number of good skills from it. Being in grad school means student loan interest was deferred, and so I didn't have to worry about being buried in payments after the fact. I still have loan debt, but outside of the program and with a job it is manageable.

My interests were in AI research / machine learning and algorithmic analysis / theory. Being skilled at the latter from undergrad got me a student research position with the theory department doing work that was related to cryptography for US DOD purposes. I've spoken on this before, but I found myself low in passion for the project, and that and what is probably undiagnosed ADHD made any sort of self-motivated study basically impossible. I eventually left, not with the PhD as I had planned, but enough coursework for a masters.

While filling out applications for various jobs, some of which were more appealing than others (the specter of the DOD looms large over my fields of expertise), I received an email from one of the department secretaries about an position being open at this lab, and applied. I did well enough at the interview programming challenge that I got the job, and have been working there since 2016.

To the degree that I think there are lessons to be taken from this, it's that knowing that you've been at university and are about to graduate, you have at least some leverage on the university, in that they want to be able to point to their graduates getting jobs after the fact to prospective new students, so there will probably be people in your department or the general services that you can (and probably should!) talk to about finding possible job openings and helping facilitate resume placement and interviews. Getting you a job helps make them look good, and if their goal is to turn out young adults qualified to specific kinds of jobs it's also a good place for potential employers to put out feelers for new hires.

that last piece of advice is really good. ive been very hesitant to give the career center any chance because i fucking hate my university but also i had no idea what i wanted to ask, but a lot of the input here and reflection that has led me to the sea grant stuff and the foreign service stuff and now i have actual questions i can put into words. its great. ill def start there before the summer ends!!