Micolithe
Agender
36 years old
Philadelphia, PA
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Last Login: 08/30/2007

Agender Enby, Trans, Gay, AND the bearer of the gamer's curse. Not a man, not a woman, but instead I am puppy.
I got a fat ass and big ears.

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Yes I did the cooking mama Let's Play way back when. I post alot about Tech (mostly how it sucks) and Cooking and Music and Television Shows and the occasional Let's Play video
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We all do what we can ♫

So we can do just one more thing ♫

We can all be free ♫

Maybe not in words ♫

Maybe not with a look ♫

But with your mind ♫


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It's definitely the part that, speaking diplomatically, asks the most of you. Nah, that's too ambiguous: it has a lot of shit that doesn't make sense or doesn't land, or has disturbing implications that are really unpleasant. So yeah I totally hear you. I do really like the ending and most of the part in general, but I think it would be honestly pretty tiresome to explain why, so.

So, part of my issue with part 6 is: what is the bad guy's plan again?? But it's apparently to create a world where everyone has a predetermined fate, one they subconsciously know and cannot avoid. And this is good for... reasons. Pucci seems to sincerely believe that this is the way to live, that it will bring humanity peace. But like, we know DIO. It's always about himself. It's about manipulation to mold the world in his image. I don't even think there's really a good reason for DIO to do this - it's contingent on him not being around to enjoy it - except that he's a massive egotist who finds satisfaction in enacting such a grand plan. And this is why I feel like Pucci's abilities are thematically appropriate: they're perverse schemes of control masquerading as benevolence. Pucci frames these stand discs as gifts, even the gift of sapient life in FF's case, but a) he's only giving what he's already taken from others, and b) he's only doing this to use people. So by the time Pucci is really getting moving with the plan, we have an impression that it's going to be this same scheme wrought large - one big prison.

What I like about the ending is, first, holy shit is Pucci threatening. Nobody else in this series IMO creates the sense of hopelessness and despair, of being completely outmatched, as Pucci when he begins to accelerate to the point that he is untouchable and knows it. And yet the showdown still feels tense - the heroes maneuver him to where they want, they scheme to use their abilities in concert, they pull out every trick. They sacrifice everything they can to protect each other. And shockingly (to me anyway) it works - Jolyne, given another moment to act by Jotaro, uses the ocean's accelerated currents to carry a last survivor to safety. She's like the embodiment of everything I like about the Joestars in this moment: clever, resolute, protective of innocents, self-sacrificing, but most of all using a sneaky trick to get one over on some guy who thinks he's hot shit. And Emporio carries that determination forward, desperately, to a confrontation where the last bit of Weather, the last strand of fate that Pucci tried to sever, preserved by his own ability and enabled by his triumphant grandstanding, is Pucci's undoing. Beautiful. And honestly? Surprising in how plausible and matter-of-fact it is. Didn't you think, wuh-oh, he's going to pull some deus ex machina to get out of this? But instead it's a very Jojo thing of "actually I know an interesting fact, making me the victor"

So then what happens? Man, fuck if I know. And here's the thing: neither do any of the characters. Emporio emerges in a world where everyone he loves is gone, and only a shadow remains, and no one knows that happened but him. It's such a cruel tragedy, intermingled with the complicated truth that nobody is confined to their fate anymore. No one knows their destiny because Jolyne and Emporio saved the whole world from that prison-like existence of endless, undeviating conformity that DIO called heaven. It's such a bittersweet note to end on, one I think the epilogue to part five was striving towards, but that nothing really hit since the end of part 1.

having kept up with discussions on the manga years before the anime, I can confirm this is sorta the shared sentiment a lot of readers had. it's kinda tragic that netflix's batch-release schedule of the anime didn't help salvage it at all lol.

there's definitely things i personally like about the part, it has some of my favorite characters and designs, but not a lot of the stand abilities particularly stood out to me as much as those from other parts.

I guess to Pucci's credit, he kinda plays matchmaker with users and stands a bit? So there's that at least. I do agree with you though that acquiring stands secondhand kinda waters down the novelty of them, because they were really tied to the character's personality and goals and helping them achieve those goals. Killer Queen and Bites the Dust worked surprisingly well in this regard.