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colin @vogon3/8/2023, 6:34 PM

maia crimew posted a leaked PDF of internal e-mails between a bunch of right-wing US anti-trans groups that it thinks should be in the open

torrent and magnet link in original article: https://maia.crimew.gay/posts/the-emails/

#us politics #organized transphobia

Shel @shel3/8/2023, 7:08 PM

These emails are a treasure trove for journalists. It basically reveals that the current moral panic about trans youth has in many ways been engineered by Catholics partly as part of a personal vendetta against the main American Endocrinology professional association.

It's 2600 pages of full faced collaboration between various right wing forces discussing what language they'll use in their speeches to deceive people and manipulate people into hating us and using that as a tool.

It's absolute proof of what we already knew.

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@sharnoff3/8/2023, 6:54 PM

flipped to a random page and holy fuck, I don't know what I was expecting but it's bad

eevee @lexyeevee3/8/2023, 9:33 PM

thanks there is absolutely no way i will be reading any of this

! a creatures !!@problemnyatic3/8/2023, 11:28 PM

I will spread this and not look at it

amaris meta (the person) @meta3/24/2023, 9:21 PM

as i commented on shel's share (before i learned how comments work), is there a direct file download, or does anyone have it in plain text?

edit: found two copies on archive org:

https://ia-petabox.archive.org/download/the-deutsch-emails-2600-pages-of-hate-a-collection-of-emails-from-2019-2021-betw

https://archive.org/details/the-emails-2600-pages-of-anti-trans-hate

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\phi @phi3/8/2023, 7:36 PM

I find it interesting thaf it's Catholics causing issues over there in the states when It's mostly evangelicals over here in Brazil making fusses irt queer rights, doubly interesting because we're a catholic majority country and the US is a protestant majority (right?)

Shel @shel3/8/2023, 8:29 PM

It's also evangelicals but we didn't even know how much Catholics were involved until now

Parker Posey's Mouth @AllisonIsLivid3/8/2023, 10:59 PM

A lot of American Catholics rejected the Second Vatican Council's (or Vatican II's) reforms in the 1960's. A lot of the changes Vatican II made to traditional Mass (New Mass) and other practices, as well as the social changes they seemingly pivoted to embrace were refused by (what are now called) Trad Caths, who viewed any changes to traditional practice as inherently un-Christian evil, up to and including the admission that Protestants were also Christians, and not enemies of Catholicism anymore.

A lot of New Mass stuff is ecclesiastic quibbling as far as I can say, but the broader social changes are what Trad Caths have been conspiring to undo since then. Even if it means allying with Protestants and secular rightists, whom they do not view as Christian and whom they still consider their enemies. I can't speak to how this schism manifested in the rest of the world. (also for reference, I am not Catholic.)

@TashTaylor3/9/2023, 10:11 AM

Oh, these are the emails people were subtweeting about! I don't have the fortitude to read them, but I am forever glad for those who do and who raise awareness for what these groups are up to.

amaris meta (the person) @meta3/12/2023, 8:21 PM

is there a direct file download? does anyone have it in plaintext? why am i subjecting myself to more unhelpable people? do you like moles? aren't rainbows magical?

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