mynotaurus
@mynotaurus

im still not over americans not knowing what a flapjack is btw


dzamie
@dzamie

don't you dare tell me that thing is what you call a flapjack. rather than using the word as an alternative to pancake


mynotaurus
@mynotaurus

do you see what better stupider discourse we could have had about hard-to-understand speaking differences

i would struggle to find you a cafe, coffee shop or ozher sweet treats establishment zhat didnt sell flapjacks here lol we Need zhat word


Nava
@Nava
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mynotaurus
@mynotaurus

yes zhis is perfect ty
america should get rid of pancakes so flapjacks can zhrive actually
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bytebat
@bytebat

okay but zhe strangest zhing to me about zhis is zhat zhe syrup appears to have a paint can style vessel where you pry zhe top off wizh a screwdriver or somezhing. am i seeing zhat right? zhat seems like zhe messiest possible way to obtain a syrup


mynotaurus
@mynotaurus

it is exactly as messy as it sounds lol


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in reply to @mynotaurus's post:

Ah. I grew up with squashed fly biscuits, which horrified most of my friends. Flapjacks as bars is new to me. They aren't in any of the books I've read. I wonder if they're new, last hundred years, or if I have just been reading the wrong books.

in reply to @mynotaurus's post:

Before 1935 there was a similar food that wasn't a pancake (calling pancakes flap jacks started only in the 1920s in the USA and never in the UK.) but more like a sweet corn bread but shortages in Europe of cornmeal made people change to oats. There's some evidence of the corn, treacle and butter version from at least the 1800s if not earlier, in both countries.

so, everything I'm seeing says that flapjack meant either pancake or a kind of apple tart in the UK, and only really meant "pancake" in the USA and its preceding English colonies. so I may need to see where you're sourcing this from. like, the use of "flapjack" for a pancake or tart dates back to the late 1500s, not 1920. this pre-dates the earliest English colony in North America.

in fact, the reason why the split you're talking about might've happened, with a thing made of cornmeal, is that among the earliest recipes for pancakes written down in English here, in 1796, was a recipe for something called a (groaning at bad old terms here) "Indian slapjack" which was made with cornmeal instead of more familiar European grains. slapjack is just another variant on the term shape of "flapjack".

That makes more sense than what I could find. I was trying to source from multiple cookbooks sharing the recipies, and might be down to the pancake split where we don't think of some things as pancakes in the uk, that the US thinks are pancakes?

... is this where I find out, after my half-joking after actual research posting, that y'all in the UK would look at an American flapjack and go "that's too thick to be a pancake, I don't know what this is?" because they are big fluffy things with the consistency of a corn bread, typically. our spread of what we consider a pancake goes very thick to fairly thin, as long as it's not like, a crepe

ehehe, don't worry, I wasn't remotely serious about any fightin', with the first post here especially. also I kinda want to try one of these oat things sometime, but I have no idea how to unless I find someone who can cook 'em