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A Jeb With No Name @namelessWrench9/12/2023, 1:31 PM

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 2:22 AM

I’m so mad about something I can’t tell you about cos NDA but fucking hell it’s so stupid it’s been hours since I found out and im so pissed

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 2:25 AM

FUMING

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 1:23 PM

Are YOU a game developer that uses Unity? Congrats they just changed their business relationship with you and there’s nothing you can do!

https://blog.unity.com/news/plan-pricing-and-packaging-updates

Effective January 1, 2024, we will introduce a new Unity Runtime Fee that’s based on game installs. We will also add cloud-based asset storage, Unity DevOps tools, and AI at runtime at no extra cost to Unity subscription plans this November.

It’s gone from having INCREDIBLY simple just pay for a yearly software licence to that, plus a very complicated sliding scale payment based on installs. Installs. Not sales or revenue but installs.

Just wait till next year when some game developer accidentally annoys their community with a “bad update” or something and their haters mass install, run delete thousands of times to rack up a massive invoice. This is so stupid. I’m done

#game dev #unity #Unity3D #unity dev #gamedev

A Jeb With No Name @namelessWrench9/12/2023, 1:31 PM

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Natalie @nex39/12/2023, 3:29 AM

the BASTARDS

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 11:44 AM

Thank you nat I knew you would understand

Dornath @Dornath9/12/2023, 4:18 AM

anyway to file the serial numbers off and hint at it or would that invite the rage and spill out the NDA breaking?

Sara Lily @saralily9/12/2023, 4:19 AM

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 11:43 AM

I’m so mad

Rosie @flowerpower9/12/2023, 7:17 AM

Is this related to 9/11 ?

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 11:43 AM

Why are you like this Rosie

ruby0x1 @ruby0x19/12/2023, 11:49 AM

A good day for DISCOURSE

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Unreal @UnrealIncident9/12/2023, 1:25 PM

They're really doing everything they can to burn through their barely remaining good will huh?

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 1:28 PM

Yeah. I’m so mad

nic tringali @nic9/12/2023, 1:33 PM

what the actual fuck

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 1:37 PM

I’m so mad nic.

nic tringali @nic9/12/2023, 1:42 PM

I am like, actually stunned. I truly don't fully comprehend the totality of this

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 1:43 PM

We’re trying to get some answers from them but ehh, it’s not going good…. Do I have your email address? Ping me at Lotte @ genericevil dot com

nic tringali @nic9/12/2023, 1:46 PM

sent

Benjamin @cordlessmodem9/12/2023, 1:39 PM

That is grotesque, what a fucked up way to run things

LeminWedj @LeminWedj9/12/2023, 1:57 PM

this is just scaring me from using unity for anything at all now. im just one guy. how the hell does this payment system work.

Matthew "Queso" Niederberger @Queso24699/12/2023, 2:07 PM

Christ, a potentially infinite cost per sale. Well, time to see how most effectively to complain at a heartless uncaring corporation my livelihood depends on :|

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 2:17 PM

100%

Internet Janitor @internet-janitor9/12/2023, 4:27 PM

An outrageously raw deal, especially for anybody using Unity to make low-margin mobile games. The most generous interpretation I can come up with for this lunacy is that they intend to strangle cheap games to juice participation in their in-game-ads services.

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 4:29 PM

there is literally a clause where they will reduce the pre install fee to zero if you use their online services and ad network

Neral @neral9/12/2023, 4:32 PM

i'm glad i decided to go with godot for the project i've made zero actual progress on but

holy shit reading the FAQ is making it look worse with every item i open. normally a FAQ is supposed to like. kind of defuse the bad change you're making and pretend it's not a big deal. come up with fake questions nobody had that make you look nice and stuff. that kinda thing

they couldn't even do that this time. "yeah an install is uh, an install i guess??? what you wanted to know about weird edge cases?" "maybe you can get a discount if you let us antitrust you into using our other very expensive paid services!!! maybe also not though" "here's an ad for a totally unrelated service we snuck into the faq" "yes it applies to games already released" "almost forgot to tell you about our AI grift" "oh yeah we're also getting rid of the only pricing tier indies ever use"

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 4:37 PM

"All determinations, calculations of installs, and revenue related to the Unity Runtime Fee will be made by Unity in its sole discretion."

its cool that they basically get to make up what your install and revenue numbers are, and send you a bill for them blindly

Internet Janitor @internet-janitor9/12/2023, 4:46 PM

"According to our calculations you owe us one Gorillion dollars and a kidney. No, you can't see our calculations; they're very high-tech trade secrets. On an unrelated note, we're offering our customers a sweet deal on ad-supported kidneys that excrete calcified masses if you don't scream I LOVE MTN DEW AND DORITOS every three hours."

Neral @neral9/12/2023, 4:51 PM

i just realized. they are going to make you pay for pirated copies of a video game. it's worded entirely in such a way that they can do that. i guess the piracy scene kind of hates stuff that phones home so they might patch it out, but who knows. and even if they patch it unity might just make up a number anyway. i mean, they preemptively admitted they just might right there.

SnepShark @SnepShark9/12/2023, 5:16 PM

ughhh, yeah, pirated copies, Steam returns, and demos would probably all count as installs. It's just genuinely disgusting.

Lotte 'just an idiot' May @LotteMakesStuff9/12/2023, 5:23 PM

I've described this elsewhere, but yeah I can see it being an attack vector too. Is your game too woke? Dont like a nerf to your favorite class? are you just an internet weirdo? Don't bother brigading a games steam reviews anymore, way too much like hard work! Just install the game! Then uninstall the game! Then do it again! again! Loop doing that for a few days to rack up a big bill to punish the evil game developer. nice. Hope blizzard never nerfs a card in Hearthstone ever again you know lol