and like. Sinophobia is a thing but you don't fight that by going "the government of China is right, actually." But people don't want to learn about nuance or history or even the actual Chinese people (and other Asians actively adversely affected by the actions of the Chinese government) around them, they just want to be cheerleaders. So when they hear the home team sucks, all they do is trade in their pom-poms so they can keep going rah rah, because that's easier than thinking.
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in reply to @alyaza's post:
I feel like the closest I get to that is pushing back when conservative or centrist types try to paint China and Chinese people as, like, living under a monolithic 1984 totalitarianism. I think a lot of that tends to stem from bad understanding of communism, orientalism, and propaganda trying to drum up some sort of Yellow Peril Cold War. But yeah, I don't think we have to treat it as a communist utopia under-siege, or justify the bad shit the country does.
That said, I could probably stand to do more research on present day China and Chinese society.
Yeeeeah, I knew a leftist furry a while back who randomly decided to support China and Russia (while Russia was already invading Ukraine) because they're "anti american imperialism" while refusing to acknowledge the imperialism of those countries and I never could wrap my head around that.
What gets me about the mindset of that type of person is Russia and China aren't even denying their imperialism??? It's very overt actually?? Part of me wonders if they're like, "well, the US denies their imperialism but is imperialist so everything just works on Opposite Day rules" because otherwise HUH?? (To be clear, if that really was why they believed that I would still say HUH??)
it's only imperialism if it comes from the Washington region of America, otherwise it's just sparkling nationalism
in reply to @sharksonaplane's post:
I would like to read that thread because this point of nuance is relevant with astonishing frequency in my local, face-to-face social environment of progressive-in-theory rural white folk. usually the inverse — I speak against sinophobia and am assumed to be defending the Chinese state; but I feel like having broader perspective in general will help there too.
Yeah, people sure do hate nuance and understanding that other people actually exist! It sucks!
But yes here's the link: https://cohost.org/sharksonaplane/post/7333357-re-people-who-uncri
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